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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » User Favorites: benjaminira http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » User Favorites: benjaminira en Fri, 29 Jul 2016 15:54:53 +0000 Gesture on "New chords" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/new-chords#post-14018
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Gesture 14018@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I realize this thread has been dead for 3 years but just found 2 new uses for sandemose's awesome voicing:</p> <p>6-9-7-7-5-0(5) then 7-12-10-10-8-8 (A7#9/b13) then 13-16-14-14-12-12 (DmMaj7/6/9) </p>
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Thu, 14 Jul 2011 12:38:32 +0000
Floatingbridge 5085@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>oh, yeah this thread started with the question of how to voice min7b5&#39;s. this is one i got from peter mazza but my hands are too small to get into it very quickly the way he originally suggested it be fingered. so i modified it&#39;s fingering to suit my ability. it is for Emin7b5... it was from a stella by starlight arrangement he had.</p> <p>12-13-7-7-7-0 .fingered: 2-3-thumb-thumb-thumb-0 .</p> <p>after i realized itwas possible to do this a long time ago , it has since opened up possibilities for previously unplayable chords and unconventional ( guitar ) tonalities. use the side of your thumb as a mini capo.at first it feels a little weird but if you use your stomach/chest/peck/shoulder to support on the other side and offer the resistance that your (now ) free floating fretting hand supplied, it will feel more solid. obviously there is a whole lil&#39; world of chordal possibilities with this device and this is just one example. </p>
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Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:46:16 +0000
jazzacast55 5083@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I love this thread!</p> <p>ok here is one for d min : x-x-0-9-6-8 and the same with different bass notes, maybe: 6-0-0-9-6-8 thum on the 6th frett</p> <p>also getting in to this shape and running it through maybe Cmajor, Fmaj9= x-8-x-0-8-5 Dmin9= x-5-x-0-5-1 Cmaj9 x-3-x-0-3-0 </p>
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Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:54:36 +0000
InWalked 5082@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>a nice Dm9(13) 10-8-9-5-5-5 fingered 4-2-3-1-1-1 </p>
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Wed, 13 Jul 2011 23:18:31 +0000
Floatingbridge 5080@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>... i like raking it from high to low on say, round midnight for when that Eb pops up as major...<br /> heeheehee </p>
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Wed, 13 Jul 2011 22:55:28 +0000
Floatingbridge 5078@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i like :<br /> x-x-15-12-13-12 / x-x-15-13-12-12/x-x-14-12-10-10...8-x-9-7-5-5- </p> <p>this is for a IIVI in C:<br /> f,g,c,e for the Dmn7, f,bA,B,E for g7( also this a tritone away would work however this voiceleads smoothly) and those other 2 ( same shape for both chords used during the Cmaj7...sorry, kinda lazy right now- don&#39;t want to spell.)</p> <p>as for just a random chord voicing i find cool, ( albeit kinda over the top and lush...which can have it&#39;s place):<br /> Ebmaj7= (from low to high...the above were aswell , hopefully that was clear)<br /> 6-6-0-0-3-3=Bb,Eb,D,G,D,G fingered: 3,4,0,0,1,1. </p>
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Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:20:25 +0000
wilmore 5076@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>one more for the road.....x-13-14-11-10-10. to x-15-11-14-11-13. to 13-16-14-14-12-12. for minor ii-v-i in D. will Mr. Rosenwinkel be coming to the west coast anytime in the near/distant future?<br /> cheers. </p>
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Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:50:47 +0000
Joxo 5073@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey</p> <p>Thanx for these voicings. I find dominats to be easier to find nice movments and voicings for than Major 7 and minor 7 with natural 5th.<br /> Any cool voicing for Maj 7 and minor 7 u guys want to share ?</p> <p>/J </p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:58:42 +0000
jazzacast55 5071@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Awesome! Thanks Kurt </p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:03:43 +0000
Basile865 5070@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>wow some of these are real bears to grab.</p> <p>I like this little combo: 7-8-4-6-4-4 to 6-8-5-7-5-5 to 5-7-4-6-4-4 </p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:29:41 +0000
fakejake 5067@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>&#39;they come from being voicings of the chords in question. you use them wherever you hear them.&#39;<br /> wow, now that explains.... everything.<br /> lmao </p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:55:45 +0000
wilmore 5065@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>good stuff! some different ways to play Kurt&#39;s D/F#7<br /> x 7 8 7 7 5. x 1 2 2 3 2. Gminmag7 is also a good sub for Emin9b5.<br /> also any voicing you find for a minor chord, move it up a minor third for the V then a major third from that for the I. the last chord in monder&#39;s sunny manitoba is 3 6 4 4 2 for a Gmag#5#11. thanks for the post Sandemose.<br /> cheers. </p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:26:59 +0000
kurtisrosenwinkel 5063@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>they come from being voicings of the chords in question. you use them wherever you hear them. </p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:31:55 +0000
jazzacast55 5061@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey guys, as I&#39;m kinda new to the type of chords above, I have a couple of questions,</p> <p>1: Are you guys just coming up with these shapes and maybe running them through a scale?, I&#39;m just not to sure where they are coming from.<br /> 2:Where would you likely use them as they are bigish 5 or 6 note chords, duo? trio? If it was the top 2 that sandemose posted the bass player would be playing E for the first chord and then A for the second creating a bigger sound right?<br /> If it was a duo would you still use the -7b5 with Bb in the base?<br /> Sorry for the noobie questions, was just thinking as I was learning them, great chords by the way! </p>
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Mon, 11 Jul 2011 00:36:07 +0000
silverwater 5058@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>@igor blomberg: Or you can modify it slightly: 6-9-7-7-5-5 . Then you can finger it like: 1, 4, 2, 3, 1, 1. You just have to make sure you make the barre with the side of your index finger, so you can curve it around and grab the Bb on the 6th string. I&#39;m finding this way is little bit easier for my smallish hands to grab than Kurt&#39;s way. Beautiful sound btw Sandemouse! Makes for a nice Bbmaj+5+11 chord too...</p> <p>I don&#39;t have any min7b5 chords as nice as the previous ones but I do like this move (ii V i in dm):</p> <p>x-10-x-9-11-10 x-10-11-10-10-8 x-5-x-x-5-1</p> <p>The A7 I finger like this: 2,4,2,3,1 </p>
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Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:25:31 +0000
jazznan 5035@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Nice ones Sandemose and Kurt, thanks. I was experimenting with D/Bb for Em7b5 and Eb/A or Eb/C# for A7, and those look voicings look close to something like that, thanks again.</p> <p>One that I like for Bm7b5 is x-x-9-9-6-10 to E7 x-x-12-13-8-8</p> <p>One for Dm7b5: x-11-x-10-8-12 to G7 x-13-x-12-9-13 </p>
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Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:04:37 +0000
kurtisrosenwinkel 5034@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i love that voicing, sandemose. i use my thumb for the Bb, then 4,2,3,1,1. i also like this one:</p> <p>6-7-x-7-7-5. this moves to: 5-x-8-8-6</p> <p>best,<br /> Kurt </p>
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Sat, 09 Jul 2011 08:42:43 +0000
igor.blomberg 5033@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>How do you place your fingers in those voicings? </p>
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Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:45:58 +0000
Sandemose 5031@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Found this minor7b5 chord yesterday. I really liked it. Any more minor7b5 chords you like to use and in which songs and how (share your moves!)</p> <p>6-9-7-7-5-0 (moves nice to) 6-8-7-6-5-0 (A7) in Stella by starlight.</p> <p>best, Sandemose </p>
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Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:46:21 +0000
Anonymous 2551@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I love EVERYTHING about Mark Turner&#39;s Dharma Days </p>
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Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:46:19 +0000
Quintricacy 2549@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve been meaning to transcribe some chord stuff but I keep forgetting. I really love his voicings on Mark Turner&#39;s Dharma Days. </p>
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Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:02:39 +0000
mds90 2548@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I know this (as I have just write once):<br /> 6-7-x-7-7-5 played with the thumb for the sixth string. you can use this for E half diminished, for F#7alt, for Gm13(maj7)! you can try this on other roots and see if you like it!<br /> Kurt says that often he likes to put fingers randomly on fretboard with some open strings and then try to judge the sound and keep some new chords from that. I see him doing that and then playing Darn That Dream using one of them very often! </p>
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Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:01:00 +0000
jazznan 2547@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Has anyone undertaken a study of the chord voicings that Kurt likes to use? Will this be a feature in his book? (I hope so) It will be a best seller when it finally hits </p>
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Sun, 22 Aug 2010 14:24:51 +0000
Sandemose 2403@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>mds90: sweeeeet.... </p>
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Sun, 22 Aug 2010 13:45:42 +0000
mds90 2402@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>sandemose told: 6-7-x-7-7-5 &lt;----its a beauty...<br /> Let&#39;s try this on minor II V I (example in Dm)<br /> 6-7-x-7-7-5 for E half diminished (flat five, root, seventh, ninth, eleventh)<br /> 9-10-x-10-10-8 For A7alt (third, seventh, sharp five, root, sharp nine)<br /> 13-14-x-14-14-12 for Dm (third, sixth, fifth, major seventh, ninth)<br /> you have 3 triads on top for every chord! </p>
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Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:32:52 +0000
Anonymous 2400@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>3rd and 4th triads of B harmonic major.......whoops it&#39;s still early. </p>
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Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:30:27 +0000
Anonymous 2399@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i got to have a smoke with kurt last time i saw him so i guess i got my prize early. that fingering makes sense because 5-x-5-3-4-3 is a common voicing for A7 altered, i guess kurt decided to throw his thumb in there to get the 3rd. that min7b5 voicing is a great g melodic minor chord(try using for F#7 altered). the Ebmin/Emin comes from combining the 5th and 6th triads of the B harmonic major scale. makes a good C7 altered(who doesn&#39;t love a major7 on a dominant chord).</p> <p>Cheers! </p>
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Sun, 22 Aug 2010 10:02:57 +0000
Sandemose 2396@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I remember Kurt spelling the chord as a A7+Eb, I guess with those more complex chords they can be named in different way, esp. out of context. Given a song context it gets a bit easier. His fingering suggestion was really crazy though:</p> <p>3-Thumb-4-1-2-1 (this means the thumb reaches down to the A string). Its quite bizarre...</p> <p>I guess Smith is the winner :)</p> <p>On the same thread, Kurt presented his favorite minor7b5 chord:</p> <p>6-7-x-7-7-5 &lt;----its a beuaty...</p> <p>Best, Sandemose </p>
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Sun, 22 Aug 2010 04:31:50 +0000
add4 2394@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey,<br /> Very interesting sound for the chords presented here .. i had never experimented with the concept of polychords before.<br /> The very first question that goes through my mind is : how are they useable? i mean you have a Ebmin/Emin chord, can you substitude it for each one of these, or the chord above, or below, or another totally different chord, aare there rules for that or is it a matter of experimenting and seeing how it sounds in what situations and what you like?<br /> Thanks for giving me hints about that </p>
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add4 2395@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Multiple posts .. sorry about that </p>