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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: Adam Rogers - Recent Posts http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: Adam Rogers - Recent Posts en Sun, 24 Jul 2016 01:00:22 +0000 smoke on "Adam Rogers' right hand technique" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/adam-rogers-right-hand-technique#post-12778
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smoke 12778@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Rodney Jones picks the same way. I think Sheryl Bailey as well. I've tried it in the past but dropped it after a few months. You have to give up hybrid picking which is important to me so I went back to the way I used to pick. My technique was no better, nor my tone, nor my time, nor my penis length... </p> <p>Way too many people picking all kinds of ways to wreck your technique based on how others do it. That was the lesson for me. It was a fun experiment when it didn't matter as much (early college) but no way would I scrap 20+ years of hard ass work now that I'm getting paid to play. </p>
HlynurS on "Adam Rogers' right hand technique" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/adam-rogers-right-hand-technique#post-12776
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HlynurS 12776@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I don't feel any added tension in my thumb when I do it, as a matter of fact I feel like there's less tension overall and I'm able to be more relaxed when picking. Benson seems to bend his thumb back quite a bit while Adam Rogers keeps his thumb straight and his forefinger relatively straight as well and when I try to emulate that I feel really loose and relaxed while still being accurate.</p> <p>I do feel like it has some distinct advantages at least for me, with the kind of pick I currently use (Dunlop JazzTone 204) if I use the "traditional" angle of the pick then the pick just kinda rolls over the string and it's harder to make distinct notes as I have to move the pick farther or even lift it up away from the strings to get a good note. With the kind of angle that Adam uses I am able to let the pick just cut through the string and rest on the string below without much effort and it helps with more distinct note seperation. Perhaps with other kinds of picks there might not be as big of a difference.</p> <p>And yeah of course a lot of guys pick differently and still sound amazing, it really all just boils down to preference. Mike Moreno also has a peculiar picking technique as he holds the pick with 3 fingers and he sounds amazing doing it. </p>
Matt on "Adam Rogers' right hand technique" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/adam-rogers-right-hand-technique#post-12773
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Matt 12773@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>that style of picking doesnt offer any distinct advantage overall: it's just the way those guys pick (rogers and benson). Kurt picks differently and he sounds great; Metheny picks weird and his tone is amazing! so i think it's all about what your ears hear. if you like it, go for it. </p> <p>personally, i dislike it because i don't like to add the tension in my thumb to get the pick into position. i do like the sound of it though. </p>
Gia5 on "Adam Rogers' right hand technique" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/adam-rogers-right-hand-technique#post-12770
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Gia5 12770@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I did. In some ways gives you advantages, better tone, a fattest note and sometimes more speed. But it can't cover all the aspects of playing, especially the rhythmic ones in non swing-situations. So, when the situation needs it, i switch to regular picking. It takes a very long time anyway, at least in my case. </p>
HlynurS on "Adam Rogers' right hand technique" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/adam-rogers-right-hand-technique#post-12766
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HlynurS 12766@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I've been studying Adam Rogers' picking techique lately, it looks really effortless and efficient. I've googled around and it appears that people call it the "Benson technique" since George Benson turns his pick in that direction as well but I think Adam's technique looks a lot more effortless. It feels really wierd to switch to picking like this at first but I'm getting used to it. Having the pick at that angle makes it easier to separate the notes better with less effort, the pick doesn't have to travel as far to clear the strings. The tone also changes a bit and I think it sounds better when using this technique, the notes sound thicker.</p> <p>Do any of you guys play with this kind of picking technique or have made the switch to this kind of technique?</p> <p>Here are a few examples of Adam's right hand technique:<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b0Kg6w95oc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b0Kg6w95oc</a><br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wPHaKit9s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0wPHaKit9s</a> </p>
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contremisart 12261@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hello people. I know he is not what you call a jazz player but Erkan Ogur is my absolutely favorite musician. Not just a guitar player, an inventor too and possibly the nicest individual on the planet:)<br /> I think this duo can give you an idea. The song is originally a folk song but this is his arrangement. The keyboard player is Aydın Esen. Not so famous for someone who was called the best keyboard player by Chick Corea.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuytRM5w8nQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuytRM5w8nQ</a> </p>
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sergiojl 12240@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Nelson Veras is superb, what a player! But I don't hear jazz when I hear his music. Someone can say that other players are Wes clones, Kurt clones or whatever but I think that their music grow from tradition, they contribute with new things to the way of jazz. </p>
wflynn13 on "Mike Moreno : comping" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/mike-moreno-comping#post-11853
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wflynn13 11853@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Mike's one of my favorite players. I've transcribed a lot of his stuff, although I haven't really gotten into his comping so much--mostly single-note lines.</p> <p>You can see my transcriptions here: <a href="http://www.williamflynnmusic.com/transcriptions/" rel="nofollow">http://www.williamflynnmusic.com/transcriptions/</a> </p>
reggit25 on "Mike Moreno : comping" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/mike-moreno-comping#post-11845
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reggit25 11845@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Wonderful tune! I would love to know too if anyone has any idea??</p> <p>J. </p>
Gesture on "Mike Moreno : comping" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/mike-moreno-comping#post-11841
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Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:37:25 +0000
Gesture 11841@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrrm01ejHro" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrrm01ejHro</a></p> <p>Who knows the name of this song? </p>
smoke on "Mike Moreno : comping" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/mike-moreno-comping#post-11602
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smoke 11602@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I don't know what your money situation is like, but you could email him about lessons. He teaches via Skype and could probably tell you his chordal philosophy directly. I haven't studied with him so I have no idea if he is a good teacher. </p>
Gia5 on "Mike Moreno : comping" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/mike-moreno-comping#post-11585
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Gia5 11585@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>The tune is UMMG (Upper Manhattan Medical Group) by Billy Strayhorn. </p>
reggit25 on "Mike Moreno : comping" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/mike-moreno-comping#post-11584
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Thu, 01 Aug 2013 00:23:29 +0000
reggit25 11584@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Does anyone know what song they are playing in the video?<br /> J.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wartllMbyiY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wartllMbyiY</a> </p>
Neither on "Mike Moreno : comping" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/mike-moreno-comping#post-11182
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Neither 11182@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks Benny for your answer.<br /> I've got Andrew Green's book. It's a great book but it talks about a much more traditional comping than Mike Moreno plays.<br /> I've got the Tim Lippincott video about modern Jazz Guitar (Harmony), and it's one of the best thing I saw on the subject.<br /> But my question is about the "real thing" great players play (voicing, rythm and harmony), about transcription of what they play.<br /> I search for this kind of thing, but for a modern guitar player :<br /> <a href="http://www.timfischermusic.com/lessons/dowar.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.timfischermusic.com/lessons/dowar.pdf</a> </p>
Benny on "Mike Moreno : comping" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/mike-moreno-comping#post-11181
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Benny 11181@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hi Neither,<br /> I can't see the videos as I'm at work but there are two sources of information on this subject I would recommend:<br /> 1. The book 'Jazz Guitar Comping' by Andrew Green;<br /> 2. The 5 part video lesson series 'Modern Jazz Guitar' by Tim Lippencott at mikemasterclasses.com - the 'harmony' video has plenty of information on "contemporary" comping approaches. </p>
Neither on "Mike Moreno : comping" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/mike-moreno-comping#post-11180
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Neither 11180@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Did anybody ever transcribe Mike Moreno (or Adam Rogers, Kurt Rosenwinkel, Jonathan Kreisberg or another modern jazz guitar player) when he comps behind a solist ? Any help would be great.<br /> some examples :<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEzLqZGWdw4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEzLqZGWdw4</a><br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etg0GEDGpZ4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etg0GEDGpZ4</a><br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNBzGKRD4JU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNBzGKRD4JU</a><br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwRTcEkoQlU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwRTcEkoQlU</a> </p>
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horg 2341@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey first post on these forums, although I&#39;ve been reading pretty much everything I&#39;ve seen here for the past week. </p> <p>Quintricacy - I just wanted to agree with your comment about Lionel Loueke. I also find him to be one of the most interesting players out there right now. It&#39;s a shame there isn&#39;t more of him on youtube though. </p> <p>As for the other guys, I must say that the two players amongst them who interest me the most other than Loueke have to be Nir Felder and Gilad. I think JK is a great player, but he never seems to keep my interest for long. That&#39;s probably just me though :( </p>
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jazznan 1996@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>When the first Gilfema album came out, I loved it........I read an article where he was talking about wanting to sound a certain way, but couldn't quiet get there because of the lack of time-he wished he had more time to play etc... </p>
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Quintricacy 1992@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;m still not so sure what you mean by the academia but when someone as unique as Loueke appears on the scene you know labels are going to jump on that straight away. But what&#39;s good is that he hasn&#39;t changed anything since he move to Blue Note, if you&#39;ve checked out his releases on Oblique Sound such as Gilfema, he&#39;s playing the same way he always had and some of the tunes he&#39;s been playing have appeared on all of his album. </p>
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Floatingbridge 1990@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>He is great! I have seen him and felt super moved by his playing. Yes, I should shake my ass. It wasn&#39;t meant as an attack on herbie hancock or Lionel loueke , more of a gripe with academia and marketing. I&#39;m not sure I questioned anyone&#39;s grasp on anything. As far as taking things personally I guess I like to defend certain things that are often deemed &quot; intellectual &quot; or don&#39;t see why this gives something such a pejorative connotation or why that inherently means that a work or a modality with these qualities are often automatically deemed as devoid of &quot; feeling &quot; or a capacity to move someone and that this doesn&#39;t also deserve attention and serve a function.<br /> I don&#39;t mean to sound like I&#39;m championing this super crucial thing- it was an observation and an opinion. Perhaps it came off as to vehement or prickly. I agree , I should shake my ass. </p>
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jbroad 1989@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>the reason that lionel is great is because he is a one- of- a- kind musician. he is not a &quot;world&quot; musician or a &quot;jazz&quot; musician. he is what ellington called &quot;beyond category&quot;. he is the only musician that i&#39;ve ever heard that plays the way he does. herbie can hire anyone he wants and he chose lionel- that should tell you something. </p>
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Conway 1988@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Floatingbridge,</p> <p>I had heard of Tim Miller but never listened to him until you spoke of him. I dig him, a lot. That guy grooves. Thanks for the tip.</p> <p>I had never heard of Lionel until I happend upon a clinic he was giving and found him to be interesting and inspiring and filled with intellectual groove so, I cant comment on your emotional downward spiral about him and coffee shop cds. </p> <p>Nobody is trashing intellectual players its just that when you want to let loose and have fun and be inspired you want groove (or a fun concert, hip-hop at a club, a movie.) And when you want to learn, be inspired, grow your brain you can dig on intellectual tunes. (or a text book, or politics or religion.) </p> <p>Some players lean one direction more than other directions, in peoples opinion, and people where expressing that so dont get worried about killing peoples buzz. I think we all have a pretty good grasp on whats going on. No hype buzzing in our ears guideing us to what we will say is hip.</p> <p>Dont take it so personal. Or maybe lay off the intellectual for a bit and go shake your ass. </p>
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Floatingbridge 1977@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hate to be a buzz kill but I know we are all gonna die so having a finite amount of time perhaps is the thing that makes us value our taste so much. Ultimately, I find taste to be limiting me. I generally talk to other musician friends who have deeply checked out musics that I haven&#39;t in order to steer me in a new direction. I get into things and burn out on them and move on and/ or eventually revisit things or not. Let&#39;s face it , all these peeps can &quot;swing&quot; and &quot;groove&quot; hard or they wouldn&#39;t have gotten the work that they have. As for their personal explorations it&#39;s exactly that - they are looking for other things, and if that doesn&#39;t jive with you at the moment then it doesn&#39;t . If I am looking for mean Indian food no amount of the best sushi ever will be fulfilling , period. The day I say &quot; that&#39;s the guy&quot;; &quot; this is the way to play&quot; I think it&#39;s over for me. I find this polemic of intellectual versus groove or feel really tiring. I am shocked monder and miller are mentioned so briefly and impassing. While I find Lionel loueke great I can&#39;t help but feel that he is somewhat ggarnering attention because of his tenure with herbie hancock ( which gives those afflicted with schooliosis the PERMISSION to open up and like him, check him out and moreover get some of his stuff under their fingers- since this seems to be the direction dujour to go in), otherwise we would be exposed to and discussing &quot; world music players&quot; of lesser repute than those found in a disc you can get with a frappucino or we would be talking about gamelan music etc. As far as the groove thing, if that was my only qualifier for something to listen to I would still be smoking pot with my highschool friends letting the battery die in the car because we had to listen to zepellin II or frizzle fry for the 100000 time. </p>
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Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:45:58 +0000
Conway 1964@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Quintricacy,</p> <p>Not Irish. Im American but, I came across that album after I came across your dad&#39;s Creative Rhythmic Concepts. The book is still a bit heavy for me with the time I have to use it but, I really love that album. Let me know if you know of any more stuff with Joe on it. </p> <p>Your dad is a talented man. </p>
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Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:10:29 +0000
InWalked 1963@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>the original post was very positive regarding Adam Rogers so the &quot;terrible&quot; didn&#39;t quite add up. thanks. </p>
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Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:45:57 +0000
animitta 1962@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>@InWalked : Sorry, i did a mistake, i wanted to mean &quot;terrific&quot;, in a good way, an exceptional guitarist.<br /> Excuse me but i am not english mother language and so i did a bad translation : )</p> <p>BTW : i did the correction of the previous post.</p> <p>All the Best<br /> Animitta </p>
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Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:33:23 +0000
InWalked 1961@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>not sure I understand animitta&#39;s statement that Adam Rogers is a &quot;terrible&quot; guitarist. </p>
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Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:24:03 +0000
animitta 1960@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I dig and respect Adam Rogers, as a great musician and terrific guitarist. </p> <p>I think he tecnically has the best left hand i have ever seen. A GREAT economic use of all the fingers. Probabilly it come from his classical background. Sure this is not the only thing he has : ).</p> <p>Actually i already sent some Adam&#39;s link in a post before on this same thread.</p> <p>But to celebrate, something more : )</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2rsBIHxOSM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2rsBIHxOSM</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyRTSibOzb4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyRTSibOzb4</a></p> <p>All the Best<br /> Animitta </p>
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Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:24:34 +0000
andyjazz 1959@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Man, I can&#39;t believe anyone on Kurt&#39;s board could be ripping Adam Rogers. The guy is one of the most complete musicians, not only guitarists, on the planet. The guy&#39;s got it all in my opinion. The new Alex Sipiagin with him on it is killing. Damn!!!! </p>
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Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:46:10 +0000
Quintricacy 1958@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>&quot;Joe O&#39;C&#39;Callaghan on Ronan Guilfoyles Microclimate (wish I could find more of Joe)&quot;</p> <p>Ronan is my dad, are you Irish? Joe is indeed a killer player. </p>