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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: Ben Monder - Recent Posts http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: Ben Monder - Recent Posts en Sun, 24 Jul 2016 06:47:41 +0000 jbroad on "Ben Monder Video Review?" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/ben-monder-video-review#post-13803
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jbroad 13803@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i have the first 2 videos and highly recommend them. definitely going to check out the 3rd video soon. ben is a very good teacher and is very thorough! </p>
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Sat, 06 Dec 2014 22:04:09 +0000
egav 13802@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Anything Ben Monder tells you to do is definitely good for you. </p>
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Thu, 20 Nov 2014 17:25:38 +0000
jazznan 13766@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Okay, great! Thanks for the review, and it sounds fantastic. I'll watch them and then post another review. </p>
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Thu, 20 Nov 2014 15:17:35 +0000
jarediledundee 13765@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks jazznan and jseaberry for the tips! Steven Wright, ha! Totally. </p>
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Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:55:10 +0000
jseaberry 13764@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yes, I have seen all 3. (a new one was just posted a few days ago). They are very good if you are willing to read between the lines of what he says. They are very much like the lesson handouts he provides that have circulated on the 'Net, in that he does not take you step by step on things, but he shows you ideas, and leaves it to you to do the work. All 3 videos have a number of places where the screen has the caption "....and so on and so on.....". The ideas he gives are exactly how he sees the instrument and how he plays, but I would say he does not suffer fools gladly, to quote an old phrase, and expects you to do the work yourself to make what he says meaningful. Also, he has a very droll way of speaking, kinda like that comedian Steven Wright; he has a dry wit but he speaks in a low monotone pretty much throughout. Also, there are no written materials, so if you are a slow learner like me, the Streaming View is not for you; if you have to mull things over a lot, buy the downloadable one. If the quality and substance still is not clear from what I said, I bought the 3rd one without question as soon as I saw it posted, and I'm living on a pension with no trust fund, Sugar Daddy, or other disposable income!!! I hope that helps. </p>
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Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:56:25 +0000
jazznan 13763@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>These series of videos look great, but has anyone watched them? Any reviews? Thanks</p> <p><a href="http://www.mymusicmasterclass.com/premiumvideos/ben-monder-jazz-guitar-lesson-1/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mymusicmasterclass.com/premiumvideos/ben-monder-jazz-guitar-lesson-1/</a> </p>
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Thu, 22 Aug 2013 02:11:45 +0000
vaultnaemsae 11629@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Wow, thank for the preview...been looking forward to this for a long time! </p>
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Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:11:19 +0000
TruthHertz 11619@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>The new Ben Monder release Hydra is an amazing project unlike anything I've ever heard. The title piece alone is nearly a half hour long, through composed and made of several episodes within. There are little gems, like Charlotte's Song, deceptively simple and harmonically deep, pieces that use Theo Bleckmann's voice like a Bach chorale, and remarkably fluid metrically shifting compositional journeys.<br /> Demanding, really rewarding, and I'm still trying to get to know it the fourth time through.<br /> It will be available for release soon, if it's not out there now.<br /> You can check it out here until the 27th:<br /> <a href="http://music.cbc.ca/#/profile/Li-Robbins/playlist/Ben-Monder" rel="nofollow">http://music.cbc.ca/#/profile/Li-Robbins/playlist/Ben-Monder</a></p> <p>It feels to me like a window into Ben's world. If you visit, you'll have to work but you'll see stuff you never imagined was possible.<br /> David </p>
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Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:49:21 +0000
guitar1025 5958@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Was watching this today and thought I would share. Enjoy!!</p> <p><a href="http://youtu.be/TrMmmcIsk3g" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/TrMmmcIsk3g</a> </p>
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Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:34:10 +0000
harmnobean 3199@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Haha yeah &quot;definitive&quot; might have been a stretch, but, in that issue of guitar player, he does mention that he occasionally uses an old Boss OC-2, so that sounds like the most likely answer. </p>
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Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:59:45 +0000
Poparad 3196@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Well, I wouldn&#39;t say it&#39;s definitive. I&#39;m just guessing at what he&#39;s doing, but whatever actual device he&#39;s using, it&#39;s an octave effect. </p>
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Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:19:14 +0000
harmnobean 3195@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Poparad - thanks for the definitive info!</p> <p>jazznan - thanks for the tip. I&#39;m going to try to pick up a copy. </p>
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Fri, 05 Nov 2010 11:56:54 +0000
jazznan 3194@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>new guitar player magazine with santana on the front has an interview with Monder </p>
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Fri, 05 Nov 2010 11:06:40 +0000
Poparad 3193@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Ben&#39;s using an octave effect. Something like the Boss OC-3. You can hear it on more than just the low E string. </p>
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Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:30:33 +0000
harmnobean 3192@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>It&#39;s interesting, I noticed on Tony Malaby&#39;s &#39;Paloma Recio&#39; cd that Ben definitely has some sort of pedal that does suboctave, because on one track he plays some typical crazy-fast Monder stuff that is doubled down the octave. Even so, I wouldn&#39;t put it past him to just tune down a bunch for a different effect.</p> <p>That&#39;s cool that you&#39;ve corresponded with him. I wonder if he&#39;d respond to this question if I emailed it to him, or if he&#39;d just find it annoying... </p>
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Fri, 05 Nov 2010 03:10:58 +0000
Sandemose 3185@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hi,</p> <p>Im a big fan of Monder and his music. Ive never met him, but Ive emailed with him for at least 5 years or so. I have no freaking idea about whats going on on that video, but I know Ben tunes his guitar down for some of his solo pieces, like Double Sun. I think he tunes the low strings (E, A, D) into a chord, and the three high strings (G, B, E) into a chord. Cant recall which chords though...</p> <p>I always get happy when I see posts about Monder here. One of the most underrated musicians around, who doesnt get the credit he deserves, but what the heck. He rocks...</p> <p>Best, Sandemose </p>
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Thu, 04 Nov 2010 22:32:49 +0000
harmnobean 3183@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hopefully there are some fans of Ben&#39;s here who would be interested in this!<br /> Sounds to me like he tuned his low E down a whole octave for this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxArnbjCqEQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxArnbjCqEQ</a> . At 1:06 he is definitely playing a C on the 8th fret but it is super low. Anybody know for sure if this is what he does. I guess it could be a pedal, but it sounds pretty natural. Thoughts? </p>
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Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:06:10 +0000
Matt 3085@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i agree with that two step process. I didn&#39;t even think about facility, relaxation, etc until five years into my playing (and i also only knew very basic jazz theory, chords, etc). now, going back has really helped me. </p> <p>i feel like not focusing on technique in the beginning also helps the development of a relationship with the instrument. </p>
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Mon, 25 Oct 2010 12:01:18 +0000
Anonymous 3084@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>as far as effortlessness goes here is my experience-</p> <p>it seems that getting to the point of effortlessness is sort of a two step process. when you are learning new things on the guitar that your muscles arent strong enough for yet you have to exert strength over and over again until your muscles are strong enough to play whatever it is that you want to play. we all do this.</p> <p>the next step and the one that is forgotten sometimes is cutting out the physical exertion. because your muscles are now strong enough and your fingers know what to do you no longer have to exert muscle strength. it&#39;s already there! now it is time to relax and play effortlessly. </p> <p>i figured this out in a sort of roundabout way that i definitely don&#39;t encourage because there are better ways to get there. back in the day when i used to smoke pot (no longer) i would play the guitar. one day i was playing something that i had been working on and i realized it was really easy and there was no strain. i was relaxed and it was effortless! (i knew one day something useful would come out of smoking. ha!)</p> <p>any sort of relaxation or meditative practice will remind you what it feels like to be very relaxed and loose. sometimes we just don&#39;t realize how tense our muscles etc... are because we are like that all of the time. once you know and can remember what that body state is like then try to play the guitar while maintaining that relaxed state. try to notice the instant that your body starts to tense up when you are going for that run you are scared you are going to screw up and then stop and try it again but this time remembering what that relaxed feeling is. </p> <p>it&#39;s always a work in progress because this two part deal happens over and over again as you learn new things. i still have to remind myself to relax relax relax relax relax. unless im playing in my sludge metal band. i still havent figured out how to be relaxed while i play that music and im not sure if i should. ha! </p>
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Sun, 24 Oct 2010 23:22:00 +0000
snowaltz 3083@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey Jon,</p> <p>Alternate Picking v.s. Economy Picking:<br /> I practice both regularly, because my lines are typically rather jagged and change direction often. So, using only one technique will hinder my creativity. When practicing alternate picking I enjoy working with different subdivisions of the beat. I focus on 1:1 Quarter Notes, 2:1 Eighth Notes, 3:1 Triplets, 4:1 16th&#39;s, 5:1 Quintuplets, 6:1 16th Note Triplets, 7:1 Septuplets, and 8:1 32nd notes (obviously the metronome is set low!). This helps me really internalize the sound of the subdivision. When practicing economy picking, I use &quot;The Guitar Grimoire,&quot; by Adam Kadmon. This book focuses on 3NPS patterns. In my opinion, economy picking works really well with repeating shapes on the fret-board. </p> <p>I&#39;ll have to check more into the links you posted, to really have an opinion.</p> <p>The John McLaughlin DVD is a gold mine! Check it out if you get the chance. </p> <p>-James- </p>
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Sun, 24 Oct 2010 22:28:18 +0000
silverwater 3082@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey James -</p> <p>Thanks for all that info, very informative. I&#39;m definitely gonna check out that McLaughlin DVD. I&#39;ve gone through pretty much every possible way to pick: palm on bridge, pinky leaning on pickguard, freehand, picking from the joint, picking from the elbow, picking from the forearm...but I think I&#39;ve settled on Johnny Mac&#39;s (and Monder&#39;s and Hekselman&#39;s and many others) way of picking mainly from the wrist, string-to-string movement from the elbow, and palm lightly muting unused strings. It seems like the most functional way. I&#39;ve never heard of Pepper Brown, but I&#39;m definitely going to check out his vids as well. I also didn&#39;t realize that Mick Goodrick talks about left hand technique in his book, I hadn&#39;t pulled that book out in ages, but it&#39;s a great exercise he has in there with regards to using energy in the most economical way, in both hands!!</p> <p>And I agree with you about checking out the shredders for tips on technique. I&#39;ve just started with John Pattuci&#39;s Vid, and I&#39;ve been working with Frank Gambale&#39;s books a little bit. Do you know Shaun Baxter&#39;s Guitar Gym? He&#39;s a shredder that constantly cites Paul Gilbert. If you haven&#39;t seen this, give me your email address. I&#39;ll send you the PDFs. You&#39;ll definitely like his legato workouts among other things. He&#39;s an advocate of Economy Picking, something I had never tried until a month ago. (I was a strict Alternate picker because of growing up on god damn Bill Leavitt books). What are your thoughts on Alternate vs. Economy picking? It seems that economy picking is great for triplets, sixteenth notes, and playing eighth notes uptempo, but I don&#39;t always like the articulation I get when playing medium tempo swing eighths. But I guess since they have different sounds, the only solution would be what Mick Goodrick would say: Learn how to do both.</p> <p>I found a couple things online recently that you may like as well:</p> <p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/24165811/R-Iznaola-Kitharologus" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/24165811/R-Iznaola-Kitharologus</a></p> <p>Exercise 12 and 14 have been useful for me when focusing on left hand position and getting the fingers to move independently without pivoting off each other, minimizing the energy exerted to fret a note. I&#39;ve come up with a way to use Ex 12 to work on economy picking as well. One of the challenges coming from strict alternate picking is it&#39;s difficult to upstroke on the downbeats and downstroke on the upbeats. If you play each note in EX 12 twice, as 1/8 notes, and keep the strict rules in economy picking, you&#39;ll end up going down/up down/up down/up on the E string, then up/down up/down up/down on the B string...etc. etc. etc.</p> <p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/33a2tcu" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/33a2tcu</a></p> <p>Wow that&#39;s quite a link, but it&#39;s for an online version of &quot;The Natural Classical Guitar: The Principles of Effortless Playing&quot; by Lee Ryan. I just found this one two days ago. It&#39;s focuses more on mental techniques than physical. I haven&#39;t finished reading it yet, but there&#39;s some great stuff in there about concentration, and how to not use more energy than necessary, two things that I desperately need improvement with. </p> <p>Long post, but hey it&#39;s a worthy subject.</p> <p>Cheers,<br /> Jon </p>
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Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:27:24 +0000
snowaltz 3081@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hi Silverwater,</p> <p>The topic of technique (right or left hand) is very interesting to me. I have spent a lot of time searching for instructional material and also coming up with my own solutions to problems similar to your tape on the fingers. </p> <p>Here are a couple of published materials that you may find interesting: John McLaughlins&#39; DVD &quot;This is the Way I Do It,&quot; (close-up shots of both his left and right hand) Mick Goodrick&#39;s book &quot;The Advancing Guitarist,&quot; (the everything book, has an article on proper left hand finger pressure) Pebber Brown&#39;s Youtube Videos (anything by this guy is cool, he has an enormous amount of material posted) also, if you are willing - check out the following guitarists: John Petrucci, Steve Vai, Frank Gambale, Paul Gilbert, Shawn Lane, Rusty Cooley, etc. There is a lot we &quot;jazzers&quot; can learn from rock guys. They spend a huge amount of time on technique. You can find short instructional clips on youtube as well as many blogs. </p> <p>Here is my own suggestion for improving left hand technique:<br /> I work on doing trill exercises (rapid hammer-ons and pull-offs) using all of the finger combinations of the left hand 1-2, 1-3, 1-4, 2-3, 2-4, 3-4, 1-2-3, 2-3-4, 1-2-4, 1-3-4, and 1-2-3-4. Try and isolate the finger groups that are the weakest. Also, remember to do this on all strings and different positions to get the most out of the workout. </p> <p>I sincerely hope this has been informative. </p> <p>All the best,<br /> James </p>
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Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:26:35 +0000
silverwater 3080@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey all,</p> <p>I&#39;ve been doing a lot of overhauling of my technique lately (a scary thing to do after 14 years of playing). I had been focused mainly on the right-hand, but after seeing Ben Monder last month I&#39;ve been thinking a lot about how to get my left hand to play more effortlessly (not surprising after one sees Monder!). I had always thought I had good left hand technique with the thumb well behind the neck like all my teachers told me, but there was too much tension in my left hand because this led to me constantly &quot;pinching&quot; the guitar, and for the past few years my hand got very weak after only a few hours of playing.</p> <p>So here are a few things I&#39;ve done that have helped:</p> <p>1. Shifted my position so the tip of the thumb is visible from behind the neck.</p> <p>2. Played with a piece of tape around my 4 fretting fingers, above the knuckle and just below the first bend in the fingers. It&#39;s totally weird feeling and not exactly how one would play for real, but it&#39;s taught me how keep my fingers closer to the fretboard, and to get around the neck without pivoting off my thumb.</p> <p>3. Trying to get the fingers to work independently, meaning the force that applies pressure to the string comes from that finger alone, and not from leaning or pivoting off another finger.</p> <p>So anyways, I&#39;d like to hear what other people have learned about this subject, or if someone can point out some good books/videos that hit on this topic that would be great too. I&#39;d especially like to hear if someone has heard Ben Monder talk about how he developed his left hand technique! </p>
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Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:04:51 +0000
Matt 2363@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Ben Monder is the definition of bad-ass. Seriously. </p>
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Sandemose 2359@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>@ltit, MAN those Ben Monder videos were awesome, some of the best Ive heard with him. Very good audio and video quality as well. Thank you so much for posting!</p> <p>Best, Sandemose </p>
Anonymous on "Ben Monder (new videos)" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/ben-monder-new-videos#post-2358
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Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:10:12 +0000
Anonymous 2358@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/1567936" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/1567936</a><br /> <a href="http://vimeo.com/1601348" rel="nofollow">http://vimeo.com/1601348</a></p> <p>i just found those two video i never saw before </p>
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colinmanko 2014@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I have huge hands so I never had to worry about it. But when I was younger I had a teacher tell me that I should&#39;t hold big chords like that for too long when practicing, you know when you are trying to figure out what you are going to play next... </p>
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Floatingbridge 1856@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yup, it&#39;s tough stuff. My hands are not big. I worked on one f the slower tunes... Not necessarily easier by any &quot;stretch &quot;. It is very much like transcribing or working through classical works ( mainly piano ) that are not meant for guitar. I look at a chord, it seems quite discouraging, I look at the lowest and highest note and see that it is actually possible- not as music (initially)but as a thing to physically hold for a moment, like when you are carrying many things and something is slipping out of your hands and yet you can hold things steady in the weirdest of hand shape till you have a chance set something down and adjust everything- the chords are big and I started getting distracted by what I would call it based on where it came from and where it goes... But that&#39;s not the point I&#39;m tryng to learn how to do this ballet.<br /> The only thing that worked was adjusting my body and posture because I have a normal sized guitar and I am not a tall guitar genius with big hands ( guitars look like baby taylors in his and holdsworth&#39;s hands). Move around and move the guitar around till you fnd how to grab that chord and you might have to move for the next one. </p>
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Tue, 22 Jun 2010 14:41:24 +0000
geetarted 1830@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I have found that if you move your fretting arm in so that your elbow is closer to the back of the neck, you 1 finger can stretch out. It helps with chords stacked in 2nds.<br /> Covering more than 2 strings with the 4th finger just takes time. Depending on the string spacing on your guitar, it&#39;s an option to hold down 2 strings with your pinky if you fret between the 2 strings. Barely covering both allows for notes below or above whatever the 4th finger is doing. </p>
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mscheim 1827@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>psychedlicmatthew- I struggled with much of the same thing. I never worked out of Ben Monder&#39;s book, but I have spent some significant time working out some of my old teacher&#39;s arrangements. He was really big on Johnny Smith and used a lot of these really hip sounding stretch chords, that I heard on a lot of the Johnny Smith records. I practiced with a metronome making changes on time, and gradually building up the speed until I was able to grab them all in time at a reasonable beat. They do get easier! Your hand is forced to build up some new dexterity and flexibility that wasn&#39;t there before, because you weren&#39;t playing chords like that earlier. Remember to keep your hand as relaxed as possible when making the big stretches. This will make it easier on the hand, get the hand used to making the stretch naturally, and most importantly, avoid injury. Not sure if this helps, but just remember it takes time! Good luck. </p>