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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: gigs - Recent Posts http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: gigs - Recent Posts en Wed, 27 Jul 2016 01:12:51 +0000 guitarmageddon on "Visiting New York City- gigs & venues?" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/visiting-new-york-city-gigs-venues#post-13995
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guitarmageddon 13995@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Just what I wanted, thanks! </p>
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jarediledundee 13994@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hi,</p> <p>Lots of great places to visit listed in this previous discussion</p> <p><a href="http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/venues-in-nyc#post-12623" rel="nofollow">http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/venues-in-nyc#post-12623</a> </p>
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guitarmageddon 13992@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>So I'm an Ozzie, going to be in New York for a week from April 18th, staying in Brooklyn.<br /> I know it's a big city, will be cruising the Museums and Galleries by day, but by night want music. I love modern stuff, Kurt, Potter, Krantz, Binney- so know I must go to Smalls and the 55 Bar, but looking for other joints to check out too.<br /> Locations of cool music stores would be cool too!<br /> Any tips greatly appreciated! </p>
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gleepglop 10539@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I think it depends on the music you are doing. If it's standards or standard-like originals, then you can probably sub everyone out all the time and have it be fine, even interesting.</p> <p>If you are doing difficult or unusual original music, then the group will probably suffer with any subs.</p> <p>I have a band (quintet) that does all original music with a lot of complex aspects, and if I have to sub out even one person the music suffers.<br /> Depending on the instrument, I can have one sub, but more than one and it's not worth it. </p>
jorgemg1984 on "Hiring multiple subs for gigs" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/hiring-multiple-subs-for-gigs#post-10535
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jorgemg1984 10535@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>It kind of depends I guess... but it's always a good idea to have backups. Playing with the same people for a long time leads to a much tighter group but sometimes playing with new people can be really fresh. </p>
jbroad on "Hiring multiple subs for gigs" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/hiring-multiple-subs-for-gigs#post-10533
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jbroad 10533@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>it's always a good idea to have a pool of players that you like to play with. you wouldn't want to lose out on gigs just because 1 or 2 of the guys can't make it. every band that i've ever played with has subs available </p>
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surfinboy 10531@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I was wondering what people's thoughts are on hiring subs for gigs. I lead a quartet with a standard 4 guys (including me), and I can usually book any date fairly certain that on any given night at least 3 of us can do it. Even in an absolute worst-case scenario I could grab 3 totally different guys and get it covered. </p> <p>But I wonder how much the integrity/vibe of the group suffers if I get subs for 2 or more players. The flip side, of course, is that even if I'm hiring a lot more subs, the group could play out more, and the band name/identity of the band would keep going even if I'm the only original guy on that particular night. Bandleaders, what are your thoughts on subbing out multiple players? </p>
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progressiverok 9081@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>For sure you have to aim high theoretically and play low practically.Restaurants and bars I have been told are a good place to start.I already looked into some bars and stuff.Thanks for ur response~ </p>
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progressiverok 9080@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey thanks for everyone's input.I was thinking more along the lines of a solo gig doing chord melody songs.I heard restaurants are a good place to begin,I already looked into a few in Queens where I live. </p>
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sweetdeat 9072@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I don't live in NYC, but I play there several times a year. How I do it is simply call the venue and email religiously. Be consistent but not overbearing...maybe a little less than a week resend your email. That's how I do it.</p> <p>Be realistic. The Iridium or Dizzy's probably isn't going to book you. So...shoot for venues you have a chance at and work up to it from there.</p> <p>Best of luck, </p> <p>Jacob<br /> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/jacoballendeaton" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/jacoballendeaton</a> </p>
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progressiverok 9048@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hi there friends,for some reason I was unable to view the comments made on the original post.So I hope no one minds if I re-post the original sans the video.</p> <p>Just thought I would take a stab at this,I have previous tour experience in the alternative music field since 1984.I have been playing jazzy instrumentals/solo guitar for the past couple of years.I would love to get my feet wet(dirty is more like it)in this genre.Whats the best way to find gigs in the NYC area?Though I consider myself a world musician(e.g. Mike Oldfield) I am contemplating as to whether jazz clubs may be more accessible.I am fully cognizant that the jazz scene is very difficult to break into and have a strong tolerance against rejection so that's not a factor;recognizing that I will of course be playing for next to nothing,What clubs,bars,restaurants are accessible in the aforementioned scenario?<br /> )Thnx much~ </p>
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Matt 9045@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>from what i've heard, it takes about 5 years to get on the scene in new york city and that's assuming you've gotta lot of shit together. go to sessions, ask to sit in, make connections. </p>
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silverwater 9044@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>You've gotta find people to play with first...Open jam sessions/Craigslist </p>
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progressiverok 9020@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Just thought I would take a stab at this,I have previous tour experience in the alternative music field since 1984.I have been playing jazzy instrumentals/solo guitar for the past couple of years.I would love to get my feet wet(dirty is more like it)in this genre.Whats the best way to find gigs in the NYC area?Though I consider myself a world musician(e.g. Mike Oldfield) I am contemplating as to whether jazz clubs may be more accessible.I am fully cognizant that the jazz scene is very difficult to break into and have a strong tolerance of rejection so that's not a factor;recognizing that I will of course be playing for next to nothing,What clubs are accessible in the aforementioned scenario?<br /> (I left a video below as a means to show where I am at technically,the playing is more avante-garde/experimental but I also play chord melody stuff which I have not yet videoed.There is also piano stuff there as well.)Thnx much~</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfkwBtPrDIQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfkwBtPrDIQ</a><br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlSGHiA43D4&amp;list=UULvcaRxGctAnecKuBcb-R_Q&amp;index=17&amp;feature=plpp_video">Piano</a> </p>
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Anonymous 5114@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;m interested in how much musicians are getting paid in Northern Europe for jazz gigs whether playing standards or originals as I&#39;m considering relocating to Europe some time in the future. Amsterdam, Berlin, Copenhagen, Paris etc...</p> <p>Where I live in Australia (outside of Sydney) it seems to be about $50 per person most cafes/restaurants are paying at the moment though like anything it can vary. One-off gigs (private parties, functions, art galleries etc.) I tend to get $100 - $150. (I play bebop)</p> <p>The tip bucket thing I&#39;ve seen happen in Melbourne with the best Australian Jazz musicians as well</p> <p>There&#39;s a great youtube channel by a NYC bass player called Jonah Jonathan where he&#39;s interviewing established NY jazz musicians and getting their perspective on the current state of the NY jazz scene, in particular paid gigs and work opportunities.</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JonahJonathan" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/JonahJonathan</a> </p>
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jbroad 4169@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i&#39;m in the nyc area:</p> <p>bar gig- $100<br /> casino type of gig or park (during the summertime)- $150 to $175<br /> private gig- $300</p> <p>most jazz gigs pay nothing out here unless you&#39;re playing at the blue note, jazz standard, the vanguard, etc.... i&#39;ve never made more than $50 on a typical jazz club gig in the city. i remember seeing chris cheek&#39;s band at detour a while back and he sent around a tip bucket and announced that they don&#39;t get paid by the club and rely on tips. he had many of nyc&#39;s top musicians in his band including steve cardenas, tom beckham, henry hey, matt pavolka, &amp; dan reiser. it was sad and ridiculous that these incredible musicians were playing for tips. </p>
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silverwater 4167@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>On the subject of money for gigs in New York vs. elsewhere:</p> <p>I&#39;ve lived in New York for the past 2 years, but I grew up in a small town. From my experience, New York is so oversaturated with musicians that it&#39;s not uncommon to see people play for less money than they deserve, and sometimes people even play for free (I&#39;ve even done it myself on a few of occasions...a night of drinking with your friends &lt; a night of drinking AND playing music with your friends...). </p> <p> A drummer I play with always says &quot;I&#39;ll never play for less than 100$&quot;. There are jazz gigs where non-superstars can make 200-300$ per night, but at that point you&#39;re competing with some pretty kick ass musicians, at least around here...and yadayadayada, I&#39;ve found that playing in small towns can just be as lucrative if not more than a city like this, because it attracts so many musicians from outside, which raises the musician:fan ratio. </p> <p>On the subject of how much money you should get for a gig, that&#39;s such a subjective question. But for a standards gig at a restaurant, as a &quot;no-name&quot; player, you probably don&#39;t want to walk out of there with less than 50$. Maybe a little bit less if it includes free dinner and drinks. Conversely, you should feel pretty good about leaving there with something near 100$. </p> <p>A couple protips: - a quartet splits the money 4 ways, a trio 3 ways, a duet, 2 ways, and solo playing 1 way. (Work on your solo and duet playing!)</p> <p> - One of the best ways to get weekly gigs is to be the first person to play music there. Find a place that never has music, but seems like it could, and give them your slick demo. I had a weekly duet gig for two years at a place 5 minutes down the road from me that paid 100$ each with the best italian cooking around, simply because I was the first person to approach the owner with the prospect of having music at their establishment. He never wanted to because he always figured jazz to be obtrusive banging, but then he heard what two guitars could sound like and it changed his mind. </p>
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JorgeRubiales 4165@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I only know a friend who has a steady gig on a restaurant, 50 euros every night.</p> <p>The other things are pubs and the like, and they mostly have a set budget (more people = less money). With a 4 piece standard band the norm is 50 per night too, but you&#39;ll be hard pressed to find enough places to be &quot;steady-like&quot;... </p>
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jorgemg1984 4161@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Wow things are even worst in some parts of the world i see. Here you can get around 40€ or 50€ for a straight ahead jazz gig (75€ if you re lucky) in a bar or around 150€ - 200€ if its a jazz festival. If its more on the cocktail side (with a singer playing standards) it can go from 75€ on a bar or restaurant to something between 200€ - 500€ on private parties, art galleries, weddings , (usually its 200€ but sometimes 500€ gigs show up) ... If you play covers you maybe get a little better on bars than playing jazz. </p>
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InWalked 4160@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Good topic. The closest thing to a steady gig for me is a supermarket chain. Sounds insane but the pay is $175 for 2 hours solo and many times you&#39;ll have an audience. It&#39;s not the Vanguard or Yoshis but for where I live that kind of bread is hard to pass on. For wedding receptions and private parties I try to get $75/hour. For a wedding ceremony, the price is $150 because that requires doing time consuming arrangements of The Four Seasons, The Moldau or whatever. For many restaurants or bookstores, they&#39;ll tell you that you can sell your cds but they won&#39;t pay - fck that. </p>
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jazznan 4158@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>that&#39;s fantastic, i wish I could get a steady gig like that, no one here hires steady. you&#39;re steady if you get 1 night a week for a few months </p>
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steepcreeks 4157@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>restaurant: 75ish, private party 125-200ish per man. I&#39;m in a small town as well. I feel gigs is where I really learn so I don&#39;t mind playing for 75. 75 is kinda lame but we play 3 nights a week and have for going on 4 years now. (Food and Bevs are free for us too and the food is the best in town!!) Oh, and we can play about anything we want:) </p>
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jazznan 4156@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey, just wondering (you dont&#39; have to give specifics). But how much to most people here make at an average restaurant, bar, private party, or whatever gig in New York or wherever you are? Where I live, smaller town, it&#39;s a good gig if I can make a $100 for the night. </p>