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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: inner urge - Recent Posts http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: inner urge - Recent Posts en Mon, 27 Jun 2016 03:57:55 +0000 paddypat on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-7126
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Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:24:22 +0000
paddypat 7126@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>the video and so the chorus is in this video, thanks a lot mrzzajjazz, great job!!<br /> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzgFUduwM-w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzgFUduwM-w</a> </p>
mrzzajjazz on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-2660
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Sun, 12 Sep 2010 09:21:36 +0000
mrzzajjazz 2660@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey!<br /> The original video that I used for the transcription is no longer on youtube, I&#39;ve also been looking for it.. But here&#39;s the last half of the solo, including bass- and drumsolo and a guitar-solo at the end that I haven&#39;t transcribed. I&#39;ve found this video under Kirk Rosenwinkel, now it&#39;s changed to Kirt, don&#39;t ask me why..</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB20C0pSzLA&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB20C0pSzLA&amp;feature=related</a></p> <p>All the best</p> <p>Mrzzajjazz </p>
lubo on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-2657
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Sun, 12 Sep 2010 06:44:01 +0000
lubo 2657@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>du u have that link on youtube? I cant find it. </p>
mrzzajjazz on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1556
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Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:46:39 +0000
mrzzajjazz 1556@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>For animitta and everyone else intersted, here&#39;s the Guitarpro file:</p> <p><a href="http://www.4shared.com/file/5FDD0pA5/Inner_Urge.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.4shared.com/file/5FDD0pA5/Inner_Urge.html</a></p> <p>All the best</p> <p>Mrzzajjazz </p>
animitta on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1542
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Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:03:19 +0000
animitta 1542@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks mrzzajjazz, you did a great work : )</p> <p>I would like to ask you if is possible to have the GuitarPro file too, i am a little lazy : )</p> <p>If you make that available i could open it with TuxGuitar</p> <p>All the Best</p> <p>Animitta </p>
mikelorenz on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1541
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Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:14:27 +0000
mikelorenz 1541@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks! Looks great. </p>
mrzzajjazz on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1539
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Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:12:08 +0000
mrzzajjazz 1539@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Here&#39;s yet another version of the file. I tried to follow Poparad advice. Hope this one works for everybody.</p> <p><a href="http://www.4shared.com/document/1h3YvdIX/inner_urge2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.4shared.com/document/1h3YvdIX/inner_urge2.html</a></p> <p>All the best</p> <p>Mrzzajjazz </p>
mikelorenz on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1533
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:44:25 +0000
mikelorenz 1533@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>how do you fix the pdf if you don&#39;t have the fonts downloaded on your computer? i have a lot of punctuation and symbols but no music! thanks for the transcription! </p>
mrzzajjazz on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1532
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:04:42 +0000
mrzzajjazz 1532@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I have&#39;t checked the fingerings for the whole solo yet. Some parts I have ,others I have&#39;nt. Same goes for legatophrasing/picking. I started out trying to add hammer-on pull-offs, but after a while I just consentrated on getting the work done.. Hopefully most of the notes are correct. The chords where the hardest to get right though, so if anyone find mistakes there, please let me know :)</p> <p>Cheers</p> <p>Mrzzajjazz </p>
26-2 on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1528
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:23:28 +0000
26-2 1528@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hi thanks for the new link, the transcription seems well done! did you check also the fingerings from the video? </p>
mrzzajjazz on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1527
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:56:50 +0000
mrzzajjazz 1527@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks Poparad!<br /> I have&#39;nt had the chance to go through it searching for mistakes yet, but I tried to be as accurate as I could be when I worked at it.</p> <p>26-2; I think Poparad is right about the fonts, but I gave it another try with another pdf-convertion program if the first one I used were the one making the problems (novaPDF). I used Guitarpro 5.2 for the notation. So I guess if you install something like Guitarpro or Powertab, you&#39;ll get the fonts necessary and it will probably work.</p> <p>Here&#39;s the new link though:</p> <p><a href="http://www.4shared.com/document/V7sHelET/inner_urge.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.4shared.com/document/V7sHelET/inner_urge.html</a></p> <p>All the best</p> <p>Mr.zzajjazz </p>
Poparad on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1526
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:48:07 +0000
Poparad 1526@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yeah, that&#39;s the case. I opened it and was able to select the notes like they were text with the cursor.</p> <p>To fix it, mrzzajjazz, try exporting each page from Finale as a .TIF file, and then combine those together into a new PDF document. That should fix it. </p>
Poparad on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1525
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:41:53 +0000
Poparad 1525@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Here&#39;s a possibility: I think the transcription was done in Finale, and it&#39;s possible that the PDF was created not with a graphic of each page, but rather with text using notation and tablature fonts that Finale uses. If you have Finale (like me), and have the associated fonts installed on your computer, it will display fine. If you don&#39;t, then Acrobat will probably replace it with some other font, which obviously in this case would not work out too well. </p>
Poparad on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1523
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:40:03 +0000
Poparad 1523@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>It worked fine for me. Nice transcription! </p>
26-2 on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1522
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:40:29 +0000
26-2 1522@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i think there is some problem with the pdf, it shows weird simbols instead of the tab and notation. </p>
mrzzajjazz on "Inner urge transcirption" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/inner-urge-transcirption#post-1520
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Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:24:50 +0000
mrzzajjazz 1520@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hello jazz-freaks!</p> <p>I&#39;ve just completed my most ambitious transcription project to date.. Some weeks ago I started out on Kurt&#39;s solo on this tune, the Bocco-clinic found on youtube. My main objective was to learn how Kurt plays over these changes and then try to learn to play the tune myself...it&#39;s pretty difficult.<br /> Well, after some long hours I&#39;ve now copleted it, and since everyone here are so generous and since it&#39;s such a great forum, I wanted to share it with you guys.<br /> Hope you all enjoy it!<br /> So here it is - over 7 minutes of Rosenwinkel magic!</p> <p><a href="http://www.4shared.com/document/EsZ2KOtf/Inner_Urge.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.4shared.com/document/EsZ2KOtf/Inner_Urge.html</a></p> <p>All the best</p> <p>Mr.zzajjazz </p>
Colonel Trane on "Tunes" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tunes#post-502
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Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:38:31 +0000
Colonel Trane 502@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Those pentatonic ideas are cool, I don&#39;t really use them enough. The only thing I use on this tune that hasn&#39;t been mentioned is on all the #11 chords I&#39;ll sometimes use Lydian #9 (6th mode of harmonic minor). I think I&#39;ve heard Kurt use it in one of the youtube videos of this tune. Also a half whole thing over the Bb thing sometimes </p>
Sandemose on "Tunes" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tunes#post-488
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Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:12:39 +0000
Sandemose 488@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>denjz: thats some hip shit you got there. Im really into pentatonics, and using them that way. Its good for getting started, and from there advance towards more complex solutions. Great post!</p> <p>Sandemose </p>
mrzzajjazz on "Tunes" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tunes#post-486
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Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:34:46 +0000
mrzzajjazz 486@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey denjz!<br /> That&#39;s great stuff! I&#39;ll going to try that tomorrow for sure! Thanks a lot! :) </p>
mrzzajjazz on "Tunes" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tunes#post-485
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Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:32:34 +0000
mrzzajjazz 485@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks a lot both of you!<br /> This is sort of how I&#39;ve approched it, but I don&#39;t think my improvising sound organic on it yet.. It&#39;s a hard tune, so I&#39;ll just got to keep working on it I guess! I&#39;ll definately use your tip with just using the metronome Sandemose, I tend to use Aebersold a lot, and my chord knowlege(voicings etc) seems to suffer a bit from that. Well, for a while now I have been using Mick Goodricks voiceleading books which are truly great, but man, there&#39;s alot to learn...:) </p>
denjz on "Tunes" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tunes#post-484
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Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:30:25 +0000
denjz 484@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>You can play Lydian mode for all the chords except the 1st F#m7b5 (you can play F# Locrian or, as Paul said,A melodic minor over it) ,and the last two ones : for Bb13 you can use F melodic minor and for the last Gmaj7 you can play Lydian or Ionian - both work well.<br /> The hardest part is definitely the last 8 bars where the chords move so fast and in such a symmetrical way.It&#39;s very hard to hear these changes cause the chords are not related to each other in a way most of us are used to ( like there&#39;s no II-V-I so you have to treat each chord like a new tonic).<br /> Here&#39;s one solution I came up with for the last 8 bars : you can play minor pentatonics,starting from C# minor pentatonic and then descending half step each bar so that C#minor pent. falls over Emaj7 chord, C minor pent. - over C#maj7, B minor pent. - over Cmaj7 ,Bb minor pent. over Bmaj7 and so on untill you reach F#minor pent. over the Gmaj7 chord.<br /> It&#39;s very easy to think this way: C#-C-B-Bb-A-Ab-G-F# and you don&#39;t really have to think about the changes,but after a while you start to hear them.Then you can come up with some more interesting ideas. </p>
Sandemose on "Tunes" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tunes#post-480
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Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:45:40 +0000
Sandemose 480@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>mrzzajjazz: I havent played this tune so much I must admit. I love Joe Hendersons playing and tunes ofcourse, and you can really see the influence the songwriting must have made on Kurt as well. Man, the head is not easy to play by the way.</p> <p>When I work with tunes that have unorthodox changes (like this one) I always 1. work with each chords individual sound (with every thinkable devices, scales, scalefragments, pentatonics etc, chordtones, different structures) and 2. the DESCRIPTION of the changes for each chord. So, I take chord 1 &gt; 2 (and shed that), 2 &gt; 3, 3 &gt; 4 (etc), much like Paul described above. When I feel uninspired I play with band in a box just to keep it fun. When I practice I always play with only a metronome (on 2 and 4) because I tend to rely to much on BiB for timekeeping and melodic chord descriptions if I do that to much. I wanna hear were I am, for good or worse (mosty worse, haha).</p> <p>Good luck, and look forward following your progression :)</p> <p>Best, Sandemose </p>
cruxtable on "Tunes" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tunes#post-479
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Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:40:59 +0000
cruxtable 479@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>definitely transcribing is a good way to get started..</p> <p>i&#39;ve played on this tune a little bit, and i try to approach it chord-by chord. i just take the first chord and figure out what notes you can play, maybe i&#39;ll loop it in band in a box . for four bars of f#m7b5 i think A melodic minor works best (or f# locrian#2). and just do that for each chord, practice the scales for each one up and down, and maybe figure out ways to connect them. and don&#39;t forget to listen and play what you can hear over them. the hardest part of those bars is where the chords move two per measure, just gotta shed that. four note patterns, etc. </p>
mrzzajjazz on "Tunes" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tunes#post-475
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Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:02:26 +0000
mrzzajjazz 475@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hello everyone!</p> <p>Let me just say that I think this forum is great! There&#39;s so much great topics here, and a lot to learn. I&#39;m about to get started on the tune &quot;Inner Urge&quot;, and since Kurt has done so many great takes on this tune, I&#39;d figure this was the right place to go for advice: How do you guys aproach these changes? I know there&#39;s a lot of pentatonics and melodic-minor stuff, but if somebody have played this tune a lot and will be more spesific about it, it would be great. I&#39;m also planning to transcribe one of the youtube-versions of Kurt&#39;s take on this one, and of course I&#39;ll put it out here on this forum once I&#39;m done(if I ever will be..)</p> <p>It is truly inspiring to read all the topics at this forum, and hopefully, under this thread we can discuss different approaches to different tunes! </p>