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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: metronome - Recent Posts http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: metronome - Recent Posts en Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:12:07 +0000 thelonious77 on "Practicing time feel" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/practicing-time-feel#post-13823
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Fri, 12 Dec 2014 22:46:23 +0000
thelonious77 13823@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey, </p> <p>One of the best thing to improve one's time perception would be to play the drums ( pretty obvious). Playing the drums is about coordination and independence which is exactly the same thing as playing rhythms on a guitar.<br /> i mean the better is you independence the better the time feel would be (obvious again) </p> <p>Short of playing drums it' s possible to practice rhythms and time feel by clapping rhythms and singing melodies.<br /> I have been practicing this way for about 4 years now and I'm telling you it has been the most efficient practice I've done since I started playing about 15 years ago... </p> <p>I started by clapping this : in 4/4 time -(1)23(4) . then 1(+)(2)+(3)(+)4 then combining both to get the classic 2/3 clave. Singing any standard tune over it making sure everything was in focus and at a very slow tempo ( i.e 40 pbm)</p> <p>Then i moved to other rhythms more and more complex : for ex clapping the dotted quarter or dotted half and singing more involved melodies ( i.e Evidence, straight no chaser...)</p> <p>Then moved to subdivisions like clapping groups of triplets still sing tunes then poly-rhythms...</p> <p>This is all pretty obvious and simple but it helped me a great deal to understand that the guitar was sometimes in the way of improving my sense of grove and talking the drummer talk. </p> <p>Hope this is helpful. </p> <p>Best. </p> <p>T </p>
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Wed, 07 May 2014 12:18:37 +0000
jseaberry 12968@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>That does look cool, but the thing that has me salivating about the Bounce one is the visual images; pendulums swinging, balls bouncing; I found in playing with the videos that the images really help with finger independence. Rosenwinkel + Jimmy Wyble in no time!!! .....well........ </p>
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Wed, 07 May 2014 11:28:11 +0000
patfarlow 12965@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>sounds cool!</p> <p>speaking of metronomes Julian Lage recommended this app called "Time Guru"<br /> which is kinda fun. it randomly mutes clicks. so playing to it is pretty entertaining.</p> <p>here is a link</p> <p><a href="http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2011/09/19/beyond-the-metronome-a-look-at-metronomics-and-time-guru-for-ios/" rel="nofollow">http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2011/09/19/beyond-the-metronome-a-look-at-metronomics-and-time-guru-for-ios/</a> </p>
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Wed, 07 May 2014 11:15:32 +0000
jseaberry 12963@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>If you are interested in polyrhythmic metronomes, there is one available for Windows, the Bounce Metronome. I saw some YT videos of it and was enthralled, but they are not available for Macs, which I have. The inventor, Robert Walker, has started up a Kickstarter to get the money to develop one for Mac. If you are interested, it is here:<br /> <a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/130375104/bounce-metronome-tune-smithy-lissajous-3d-on-intel" rel="nofollow">https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/130375104/bounce-metronome-tune-smithy-lissajous-3d-on-intel</a> I have no connection to this other than wanting to be able to buy it. </p>
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Fri, 25 May 2012 15:15:07 +0000
Matt 7567@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>ben monder advocates this a lot, specifically playing divisions of the beat ridiculously slow. </p>
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Fri, 25 May 2012 01:39:43 +0000
Sandemose 7561@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>callum: yeah! Ive noticed that, esp if you open a new window in your browser but sometimes it happens anyway. Doesnt bother me that much but Im thinking of getting a software version.</p> <p>matt: the cool thing with it (for me) is that even when Im out of tempo I still am really concentrated. So, even if I play poorly and I just carry on and see if I can look into the tempo. I now play 8s through the whole excercise, in the future I perhaps will start playing quarter notes. Small steps at the time. When being that concentrated, so hard, for so long, I get so inspired to just play. An inner room kind of opens up.</p> <p>Try it!</p> <p>Best, Sandemose </p>
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Thu, 24 May 2012 22:00:55 +0000
Matt 7560@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>practicing that slow really manifests the amount of pressure and touch needed. pretty incredible! </p>
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Thu, 24 May 2012 16:56:54 +0000
callum 7553@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey Sandemose, I have the same metronome and I nottice that it glitches out every now and a while, particularly bad seems to be at 50 bpm. Have you noticed this? </p>
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Tue, 22 May 2012 13:11:21 +0000
Sandemose 7535@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yeah!</p> <p><a href="http://www.webmetronome.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.webmetronome.com/</a></p> <p>It goes down to 1 (!) bpm! Make that shit swing!? </p>
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Tue, 22 May 2012 13:08:02 +0000
Floatingbridge 7534@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Great! Are you using some online metronome ? </p>
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Tue, 22 May 2012 09:59:20 +0000
Sandemose 7531@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Nothing special here, but I just wanted to share a small break through in my develpment I think many of you already have made.</p> <p>I practiced arpeggios, starting on the lowest available note, moving diatonically from root to root, playing through all keys, </p> <p>I started on 40 bpm, decreasing the tempo with 2 bpm per key. I ended at 18 bpm (it wasnt pretty, but went okey.</p> <p>Now, when I just noodle around, it feels like I got this great contact with the instrument. Never felt like this before. This sure will become a new daily routine!</p> <p>Best, Sandemose </p>
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Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:35:30 +0000
jorgemg1984 5344@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yep. half-time feel is essential for fast tunes! Even on medium tunes is helpful as long as you keep your 8th notes swinging. </p>
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Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:29:57 +0000
silverwater 5343@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>@Sandemouse: Lately I&#39;ve been playing with people that like super fast tempos...tempos where if you&#39;re up there tapping your foot on every down beat you&#39;re going to look an epileptic (no offense to epileptics of course). So here&#39;s what I&#39;ve been doing.</p> <p>With up tempos, if you need to tap your foot to keep your place, the only way to go is: </p> <p> - Tap on the 1 in 3/4, </p> <p>- and tap on the 1 and 3 in 4/4. </p> <p>Maybe you already do this, if so then well maybe someone else can benefit from that tidbit.<br /> The less you&#39;re tapping your foot at a breakneck tempo the more relaxed your body will be, and the more relaxed you&#39;ll be at playing at that tempo. </p> <p>In the case of an up 4/4, I actually count and read in 2/2, treating eight notes like 16 notes. </p> <p>Playing eight notes at 250 bpm!! OMG panic time! (Shit my right hand is tensing up, damn it there&#39;s no swing!) etc...</p> <p>Playing 16th notes at 125 bpm: A much more relaxing proposal. </p> <p>And with 3/4, If you tap your foot on the one only you shouldn&#39;t have a problem getting lost. It&#39;s almost like you&#39;re playing in 12/8 at that point too. </p>
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Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:37:17 +0000
Barry Mando 5339@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>A while back I was trying to come up with different patterns that equal 16 and my fav by far was 2 5&#39;s and a six as 16ths. I was doing it linearly as well as intervallically. A ton of fun! </p>
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Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:33:51 +0000
Matt 5337@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>one thing that surprises me still is how difficult it is to simply keep good time when the quarter note equals 60, or something pretty slow. warne marsch&#39;s slow improvisation is something that for me is pretty difficult to maintain good time and feel. </p> <p>also, ben monder&#39;s exercise of playing scales at 5bpm, or any ridiculously slow tempo, is absolutely one of the hardest things to do.</p> <p>for me, i&#39;m focused on trying to be one with the pulse, just playing great, perfect time. it may be another twenty years, but that&#39;s my goal. </p>
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Sat, 13 Aug 2011 04:09:43 +0000
Sandemose 5334@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I always thought that Kurts piano playing sounded a bit like McCoys playing. Silverwater: thanks for the info and tips! I have realized that I have problem playing 3/4, esp. in fast tempos, I actually tend to lose the &quot;1&quot; at times which is frustrating. Counting the pulse while playing different groupings and polyrhythms should help my sense of periods and time keeping I guess.</p> <p>Best, Sandemose </p>
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Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:35:38 +0000
silverwater 5332@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Chords in modal tunes, 3 over 4, for 8 bars. This was an Elvin Jones McCoy Tyner trademark. It&#39;s all over albums like A Love Supreme and the Real McCoy the original recording of Passion Dance. The 3/4 usually manifests itself as two dotted quarter notes from McCoy&#39;s left hand. </p> <p>It&#39;s one of those things I&#39;d heard a million times, but for some reason it didn&#39;t dawn that they were playing 3 over 4 until someone pointed it out to me...it just sounds like some good music.</p> <p>Hint: Over 8 bars of 4/4, you can play 10 bars of 3/4 and have 2 extra beats at the end. I&#39;ve been counting the bars of 3/4 as opposed to counting 1! (2) (3) 4! (1) (2) 3! (4) (1) 2! (3) (4) etc...maybe some people would prefer to do it like that but I just find it tedious. </p> <p>PS: Just listened to Passion Dance again...I think McCoy is doing this for 95% of the tune. </p>
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Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:48:53 +0000
oddthink 5308@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve been working this on 3 over 5/4 thing! (It works out to - every ten 16th-note triplets... [5x6=30 and 30/3=10]). But I want to just feel it, of course.... :) Great thread.... </p>
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Wed, 10 Aug 2011 14:29:53 +0000
jorgemg1984 5307@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Worked a lot on bebop articulations on the last two years - attack on the upbeat and slur on the downbeat. Swing comes a lot from syncopation but also a lot from articulation. These articulations are really hard on guitar but worth it in the end :) </p>
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fakejake 5306@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Great thread!<br /> Practicing and achieving a solid yet flexible and musical time feel is one of the hardest things for me to do...</p> <p>Up to now, what I did was:<br /> 1. Practicing bebop heads, getting them to swing as hard as possible in all different kind of tempos<br /> 2. Learning solos note for note and playing them along to the records<br /> 3. Using ideas from the &#39;Melodic Rhythms&#39; book, trying to incorporate them into my playing one by one.</p> <p>I&#39;d love to hear some other approaches on that! </p>
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Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:01:21 +0000
arewolfe 5305@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve really just been working on my swing 8th notes for the past 18 months. I find it very difficult and unnatural at certain tempos to keep long lines in time. Also I&#39;ve been working on 5/4. I can play in 7 with no problems... almost as natural as 4. But 5 is giving me a tough time. </p>
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Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:17:52 +0000
Sandemose 5304@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Ive been working on 4:3 in different ways for a while now. Havent got it down by far, but playing seems so much funnier when really learning new stuff. This part for me is so negleted, so every progress with time feel gives new perpectives on how to use harmony as well.</p> <p>At the time Im working on just playing 4 notes over 3 beats (mostly arpeggios with four notes or pentatonic &quot;shapes&quot;) as well as 8:3. My goal is to be able to play 8 over 3 with only click on &quot;2&quot; (one TWO three, that is) without rushing. I cant play 4:3 yet, but Im closing in. It would be cool to be able to alternate between 8 over 3 and 16s notes tripplets in groups of four. &quot;Time&quot; will tell I guess.</p> <p>What rhythmic devices are you guys currently working with?</p> <p>Best, Sandemose </p>