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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: miller - Recent Posts http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: miller - Recent Posts en Sat, 30 Jul 2016 09:12:12 +0000 animitta on "Tim Miller's School?" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tim-millers-school#post-10801
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Tue, 05 Feb 2013 11:35:41 +0000
animitta 10801@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>@Bluewaterpig</p> <p>Not found on his web site but on youtube (i suppose it must be in his web site too):</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxJlPk5IIqY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxJlPk5IIqY</a></p> <p>Hope this helps!</p> <p>All the best<br /> Animitta </p>
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Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:22:40 +0000
Bluewaterpig 10793@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Are thre any sample lessons anywhere? All I see is member restricted stuff... </p>
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Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:13:42 +0000
smoke 10788@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Cool Jazznan. That site has some really sick stuff on it and I appreciate how much work must be involved to keep it running. Should be plenty to keep you busy! </p>
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Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:35:01 +0000
jazznan 10778@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Just joined, and I'm impressed! See you there </p>
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Fri, 01 Feb 2013 15:52:29 +0000
smoke 10773@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I thought of one other thing to add. </p> <p>The format of the site, essentially 2-3 lessons/week, can get a little overwhelming. There is a lot of stuff to check out. I have to stay pretty focused on the stuff I really like and really want to get into my playing or I feel like I am just spinning my wheels, jumping from this to that and not getting any of it. </p> <p>As an example, you could probably work pretty consistently for a couple of months just taking one of his 'licks of the week' and extrapolating it out to all keys and applying the concept to all scales. </p> <p>So, keep that in mind. You might end up paying for stuff that you won't get to for a long time, if at all. I have thought of popping in and out of the site, maybe every few months, but I haven't made that decision. It is still really affordable which helps to watch all of that great stuff pass by and not be able to deal with it. I figure it is worth the money to keep the site running even if I am still dealing with stuff from the first few lessons. </p>
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Fri, 01 Feb 2013 13:47:09 +0000
smoke 10772@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I joined when it first started, got busy with life/music and dropped it, and just re-joined last month. The site is really amazing honestly. It is cool to see how much it has grown in terms of content. </p> <p>He is pretty much telling you how he does what he does so if you like his approach, you will love it. The lessons are short but could be enough material for years. The sound and video quality is excellent and most lessons have pdf's. He adds a few lessons a week, usually around Sunday of each week.</p> <p>I personally like the 'vocabulary' and etude lessons because it gives me something immediate and concrete to shed and apply to my playing. Some of the big topics are easy to understand but will require a shitload of work to get down - such as his approach to hybrid picking and certain ways he organizes apreggios. </p> <p>He is also very responsive on the forum, although there is little activity there. He usually responds to post within a day and is usually quite thorough. I hope that community of players becomes more active on the forum.</p> <p>My opinion is that he is the only teacher of online courses providing modern improv material for intermediate to advanced players. He has a very calm way of presenting the info and is good at explaining things. Honestly, his approach is pretty easy to understand but it is vast in application.</p> <p>It is pretty affordable considering the type of access you are getting. A private lesson would likely be &gt;$75 and you would probably cover the same type of material. </p> <p>My only complaint is that I would love to have audio only versions that I could take along and listen while I work, drive, etc. Plus it would let me transcribe some of the improv via the various transcribing apps. Some of the lessons are large video files so they choke down on my iphone, for example. First world problems, but it is the truth. Audio only would solve that problem.</p> <p>Do you have specific questions? I'm happy to give my perspective. </p>
Floatingbridge on "Tim Miller's School?" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tim-millers-school#post-10751
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Thu, 31 Jan 2013 20:24:52 +0000
Floatingbridge 10751@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://imap.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1162142" rel="nofollow">http://imap.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1162142</a></p> <p>This was just one of the first hits if you google ' Tim miller lessons review '. </p>
jazznan on "Tim Miller's School?" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/tim-millers-school#post-10750
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Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:09:38 +0000
jazznan 10750@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I was interested in joining Tim's site and current reviews, experiences or updates about the site please? Thanks </p>
egav on "Modern Jazz Players" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/modern-jazz-players#post-9780
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Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:33:24 +0000
egav 9780@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>The lippincott series are more than just lessons. They would answer exactly what you want to know.<br /> As far as the style goes, its more complex. Back in the 60s they didnt have all the material we have today. Jazz wasnt widely recognized as an academic subject by most places and it was limited where you could study it, i believe, and even then it wasnt that thorough. There was a good set of theory behind it but not as thoroughly analyzed as we have it today. This makes the vocabulary completely different.<br /> Vocabulary was meant to be clear cut, to make the changes. If you're familiar with literature, think of it as Charles Dickens, having a clear sense of the language and making everything clear. Think of what these guys are doing as something more like James Joyce. The language is very vague, but the construction and assembly of it is a masterpiece.<br /> In more specific terminology, a lot of what these guys are doing is heavy harmonically. They use a lot of modal techniques in things that normally wouldn't. A good example of this is shown in Vic Juris' book modern voicings, where he gives tons of examples of intervallic chords constructed with modes. Ben Monder uses that technique a lot. Guys like Kurt and Gilad Hekselman use a sort of "linear" approach to playing, as i've heard people say. I wish I could explain a little better, but you can tell from how they play, its not something like bird or coltrane. Its sort of more vague, again, using a more modal approach. They seem to look for the least amount of notes to change when changing chords, but at the same time, rely on a lot of alterations to do this.</p> <p>Get the lippincott videos, anyhow, it'll really give you what youre looking for. </p>
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Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:19:09 +0000
docbop 9765@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Might be of interest to some Mike's Master Classes's Tom Lippincott has a series of classes on Modern Jazz Guitarists. There are video previews to get an idea what each class is about. </p> <p><a href="http://www.mikesmasterclasses.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=160&amp;Itemid=32" rel="nofollow">http://www.mikesmasterclasses.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=160&amp;Itemid=32</a></p> <p>I haven't checked out Tom's series of classes, but have quite a few of the Sheryl Bailey and Steve Herberman classes which are great. </p>
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Sun, 28 Oct 2012 12:26:21 +0000
silverwater 9758@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I'm going to say growing up in a time after the influence of guys like Chuck Berry, Hendrix, Page, Beck, David Gilmour, and Eddie Van Halen reinvented how the instrument could and would sound has had as much of an impact as anything. </p> <p>Combined that with the influence guys like Bill Evans, Joe Henderson, Herbie, Wayne, Woody have had on everybody. </p> <p>Also, I'd add: Accents and lines starting and ending on less "typical sounding" places, a less swung 1/8th note, and odd groupings of notes (like playing 5 over 4, etc.).</p> <p>As an accompanying instrument it has advanced a lot as well (though will still forever be behind the piano ) </p>
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Sat, 27 Oct 2012 11:22:37 +0000
bingefeller 9724@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Great thread guys, lots of good observations. </p> <p>Can someone please explain what interval sets are? </p>
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Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:18:04 +0000
jazzacast55 9717@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I would have to say sound has a lot to do with it, for me 12 gauge strings with a wound 3rd in to some reverb and delay then maybe a solid state amp (not all the time though) creates a modern sound.<br /> There is a modern vocab that everyone seems to be pulling from stuff like lines with 5ths, chords with minor 2nds in there some where, pretty vauge answer but something around those lines. </p>
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Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:01:32 +0000
Poparad 9716@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Warning: hypothesis and opinion to follow:</p> <p>The phrasing of their melodic lines is much different, and this is true not just of modern guitar players but simply modern jazz players in general. Older players came out of the bebop tradition that involves a lot of long, snaking 8th note lines with chromaticism and enclosures, and while that's still evident in modern player's vocabulary to some degree, there's a far greater emphasis on thematic development. A player will take a small melodic figure, perhaps an interval or a rhythm, and develop it with variations over the course of a few bars or more. This seems to be a driving force in many (though not all) modern approaches. In other words, from measure to measure, phrase to phrase, each improvised part has more continuity, just like a composed melody for a song does. </p>
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Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:44:30 +0000
smoke 9710@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Didn't imply all players but it certainly is common.</p> <p>Another one is a more straight time feel. </p>
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Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:49:13 +0000
jorgemg1984 9709@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>"More legato, horn-like phrasing" I just disagree with this one... Lund, Monder or Kreisberg use much more staccato. All the rest is well pointed out| </p>
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Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:43:24 +0000
smoke 9708@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Several things come to mind but I am sure the list is far from complete.</p> <p>More complicated harmonic structures and harmonies, less reliance on ii-V's and cycle progressions<br /> Odd time signatures<br /> More legato, horn-like phrasing<br /> More complicated rhythmic phrasing, odd note groupings, etc<br /> More chromaticism<br /> More superimposed triads, interval sets, pentatonics, etc<br /> More overdriven tone with lots of reverb and delay<br /> Wider field of influences from all types of music<br /> More tolerance for dissonance and tension </p>
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Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:09:49 +0000
docbop 9707@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Modern recording techniques, players combining influences differently. As they say you want to learn about player, listen to who they listened to. </p>
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Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:28:16 +0000
jorgemg1984 9706@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Triads and pentatonics with delay and reverb :) </p>
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Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:12:29 +0000
bingefeller 9705@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I'm not looking for lessons as I'm already a member on the Tim Miller site. I'm asking for the opinions of people here as to what _they_ think makes modern jazz players, such as those I've mentioned, sound so fresh. </p>
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Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:34:02 +0000
Benny 9704@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Buy and work your way through Tim Lippincott's 5 part lesson series 'Modern Jazz Guitar': <a href="http://www.mikesmasterclasses.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=160&amp;Itemid=32" rel="nofollow">http://www.mikesmasterclasses.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=160&amp;Itemid=32</a> </p>
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Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:37:37 +0000
bingefeller 9703@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hi folks, </p> <p>I'm wondering, and maybe some of the more knowledgable players can tell me, what is typical of modern jazz players? What makes Kurt Rosenwinkel, Tim Miller, Jonathan Kreisberg and Ben Monder sound so modern? I can't put my finger on it... </p>
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Wed, 09 May 2012 01:37:10 +0000
jbroad 7459@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>tim is a sick mofo! killing </p>
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Tue, 08 May 2012 23:56:09 +0000
Floatingbridge 7458@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>These structures and skills are getting me excited to learn and practice. Kind of haven't felt this for a while. I've watched this a few times now. </p>
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Thu, 03 May 2012 12:39:52 +0000
natjanoff 7380@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Tim is killin!!!! Beautiful stuff.</p> <p> NJ </p>
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Thu, 03 May 2012 06:17:14 +0000
Sandemose 7375@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Check it out:</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YNoPecFBO8&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YNoPecFBO8&amp;feature=related</a> </p>