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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: Rut - Recent Posts http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: Rut - Recent Posts en Sun, 26 Jun 2016 08:08:02 +0000 piggyfly0000 on "Evolution of ii - V - I" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/evolution-of-ii-v-i#post-10725
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Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:30:38 +0000
piggyfly0000 10725@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I just realized something. Once again, I approached music the wrong way. I just finished reading an article on Brad Mehldau's website. In one of his articles he writes, "When a jazz musician blows an uninspired solo, he or she dies right in front of us – and we die with them, of boredom. When a jazz musician blows a great solo though, he or she avoids dying a creative death in real time, right in front of us, for all to see. It is a victory and it’s a thrill – it’s the jazz Sublime." My dissatisfaction comes from a lack of inspiration. Basically, I think I'm not getting out of any of these exercises because I am not inspired as of now. I now understand your satisfaction with your sound is NOT a product of all of the exercises you have done. I think I will only feel good about my playing when I play something out of true inspiration.... right???? hahah </p>
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Sat, 26 Jan 2013 05:58:06 +0000
Sandemose 10724@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I like working with intervals, like for instanse, sixts and make my way through a song being consistant in playing only sixts. Like in Autumn Leaves, you might play Bb-G (Cm), B-Ab (F7), C-A (Bbmaj), D-Bb (Ebmaj). Then I pick another interwal, now I work quite much with 4ths. I like the stuff Kurt talks about in the Gdansk clinic. Work hard with the basics. Learning stuff so you can play it by heart.</p> <p>Off topic: I realized that I memorize tunes better when I first play through it a couple of times, making a simple bass note/chord arrangement (if possible) of the tune (Alice in wonderland is the latest), and then I transpose it a major 3rd up or down, trying to play the song just by ear, using different sting sets and chord stuctures. It gets much better internalized. I realized this when I played with this great singer, and she wanted to play a song a major 3rd down. The song totally opened after a few turns.</p> <p>Best, Sandemose </p>
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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:44:14 +0000
piggyfly0000 10722@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I completely agree that learning jazz is very circular. I actually decided to work on my triplet feel today haha. </p>
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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 18:28:56 +0000
fakejake 10721@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I started out pretty much the same way as you described, practicing arpeggios and targeting guide tones. Learning a couple of lines also helps a great deal. Recently I started to work on triad pairs which instantly give you a more modern sound when playing over 251s.<br /> As with anything in learning an instrument, it's a circular process. I guess you'll always come back to practicing arpeggios and outlining the changes, and each time you grasp more of the underlying concepts and language.<br /> I'm far from being a good or accomplished player, still I play way better than I ever thought I would when I first started out listening to and playing Jazz, so I guess there is hope.... </p>
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Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:42:03 +0000
piggyfly0000 10720@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hi all, </p> <p>I'm a few years into playing jazz, and I wanted to hear your <em>personal</em> thoughts on ii - V's. When I started playing, a teacher suggested I should outline the changes of a standard and connect the last note of an arpeggio with another note &lt; a whole step of the next arpeggio. This exercise was great in the beginning but limited my playing in the end. Then I started thinking about tension and release while I paid attention to the rhythm and feel of the music. I tried not to think too much about the "theory" behind my lines. This approach was liberating in a sense, but I still outlined the chords and incorporated some passing notes to phrase my lines. Then, someone suggested I should sing what I would play before I placed my hand on an instrument. I suck at singing, so it helped a little bit. I'm still dissatisfied and need some advice. Can you guys tell me how you started off thinking about ii-Vs, and how you approach them now? </p>
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Mon, 01 Nov 2010 01:02:34 +0000
Basile865 3149@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>For those looking for some possible inspiration I stumbled upon this guy John Williams. He is a composer that has written many of the scores to films we&#39;ve all seen like Home Alone, Hook, Jaws, Superman, Indiana Jones etc etc. I&#39;ve never really sat down to seriously listen to movie music - but its stunningly beautiful. Full of ideas. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5H0sCdvZ14" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5H0sCdvZ14</a> </p>
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Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:34:30 +0000
shawnuff 3148@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>as far as the creativity aspect, i&#39;ve picked up a few new instruments over the last couple of years (keys, mandolin, banjo, lapsteel) and i find it really interesting to compose or get ideas from instruments that i am not as familiar with; it really gets me away from guitar ruts. it actually forces you to sort of &#39;think simpler&#39; and its surprising how refreshing that is.<br /> i know i&#39;ve heard somewhere about kurt and many other great &#39;non-piano as first instrument&#39; musicians composing on piano. </p>
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Basile865 3147@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yeah, I totally agree silverwater. Hendrix has helped me keep that torch burning for years, and Kurt has instilled a new excitement for new knowledge. Jazz overall is somewhat new to me - people like Metheny, Holdsworth and Rosenwinkel have resparked my imagination. I&#39;ve just been trying to live a few days without playing and it has made me crave it more. </p>
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Sat, 30 Oct 2010 21:45:06 +0000
silverwater 3145@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>If I&#39;m feeling stale as a musician, I&#39;ll go back and listen to and play the stuff that made me wanted to play the guitar in the first place, to try and recapture that feeling; an almost childlike sense of amazement. Sometimes with Jazz, at least for me, it&#39;s easy to get caught up in trying to make progress, like learning more and more harmonic sounds to play over changes, and I&#39;ll forget that I&#39;m supposed to be enjoying myself. Playing along with the solo to Comfortably Numb can change that for me, or listening to people like Phish, Kurt, the Allmans, Metheny, whose pure joy for what they are doing comes through in the music and reminds you what it&#39;s all about. </p>
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Thu, 28 Oct 2010 12:07:24 +0000
Basile865 3129@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks guys. InWalked thats an interesting Pat Metheny clip - almost has a country vibe to it. Every once and a while a little bluegrass is fun to listen to - Union Station has some good stuff. It seems like certain gear has its own sounds and music in it. When I pick up my strat and plug it into my plexi, I think blues rock and killer leads. But now I&#39;m trying to step back and learn new lines and ideas through Kurt&#39;s stuff which has turned my whole view upside down. I&#39;m kind of a hendrix nut, but kurt&#39;s music has a freedom to it and really creates landscapes and emotions. Its changed the way I approach playing in a big way. Its way beyond my knowledge and I&#39;m trying to figure out where to start </p>
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InWalked 3124@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Every few years I&#39;ll get stuck in a major rut and sometimes it takes months for me to climb out. I always there are no detours when it comes to playing but I&#39;ll try different sources of inspiration. As Poparod said, I&#39;ll listen to something radically different like going through my old vinyl records that I bought when I was in my teens. I try to tap into the energy that I had then when my guitar playing was seemingly rut free. The Bad Brains &quot;I Against I&quot; and Metheny&#39;s &quot;New Chautauqua&quot; are as therapeutic as green tea for me. </p>
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Thu, 28 Oct 2010 02:04:16 +0000
Poparad 3110@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve always kept myself involved in a lot of very different styles of music, both in playing and listening. Whenever I feel like I&#39;m in a rut with my jazz playing, I usually start listening to something very different, which gets me thinking about thinks from a different perspective, and recharges my creativity. </p>
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Thu, 28 Oct 2010 00:06:55 +0000
Basile865 3107@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>You guys ever hit a musical Rut? Sometimes they can last forever it seems. The question for Kurt is, How do you keep your mind and spirit fresh in order to tackle new creativity AND help keep a hunger to press forward in growth? I saw this one video series of you playing alone on youtube, which is now gone, but the way you played was expressive, musical and in a way exploratory. It didn&#39;t really sound like anybody - you were doing kind of a tapping thing at the beginning I think. It reminded of me when I was a kid first playing - not that I could play anything like you, but in the sense that the relationship between the person and their instrument was new and exciting. Almost like a honeymoon phase haha. It was just a man and his guitar, no influences or genre&#39;s suggested. I wonder how somebody like yourself, with the amount of music that has passed through your ears and the amount of playing you do everyday keep it fresh.</p> <p> I once read I think it was a Miles Davis quote where he said something along the lines of it takes a few hours of endless playing before you start to sound like yourself.</p> <p>Past few days I&#39;ve hit a rut. If I don&#39;t have a good creative output or flow I almost get sick. I cant eat or sleep well, its like I have the flew or something - you get sweaty. You pick up the guitar a few times throughout the day and get so frustrated because nothing inspiring comes out you put it back down. Drives me nuts! Its not too too often that it happens but when it does I feel like I lose my sanity. I&#39;m like a junkie going through withdraw haha.</p> <p>How does everybody else here keep their head in balance? </p> <p>In the past I find playing other instruments helps and just taking time off from guitar for a day or two. Lately I&#39;ve been hitting this wall for probably about 2 weeks where I&#39;m playing the same style, same old licks. </p> <p>I will say Kurt you&#39;ve inspired me to want to be a MUSICIAN and not just a guitarist. When other instruments are there like the piano it seems to help creativity and exploration, but at the same time I see so many miles to cover on guitar.</p> <p>Thanks to Kurt and everybody for any input on the topic. </p>