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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: transcribe - Recent Posts http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: transcribe - Recent Posts en Sun, 24 Jul 2016 20:23:24 +0000 callum on "How to transcribe chord voicings for piano and guitar?" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/how-to-transcribe-chord-voicings-for-piano-and-guitar#post-13655
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callum 13655@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I reckon just knowing lots of chord shapes in general probably helps. That and knowing lots of tunes, that way you can recognise longer chains of harmony, rather than just individual chords.</p> <p>Those two things definitely help me in any case. </p>
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jorgemg1984 13654@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I do an exercise on the piano that helps... Play an x number of random notes in block (3 minimum). Try to sing them by order and then check by playing them one by one. This has helped me hearing inner voices beitter... bass and top notes are easy to hear, the middle ones are tricky :) </p>
Pauli Poulsen on "How to transcribe chord voicings for piano and guitar?" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/how-to-transcribe-chord-voicings-for-piano-and-guitar#post-13653
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Mon, 13 Oct 2014 02:27:39 +0000
Pauli Poulsen 13653@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Basically what Poparad said. Listen a bunch of times. Pick out individual notes the stick out (usually the bottom and top notes will be the most obvious). Then play some educated guesses until you have something that sounds like a match. </p>
Poparad on "How to transcribe chord voicings for piano and guitar?" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/how-to-transcribe-chord-voicings-for-piano-and-guitar#post-13652
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Sun, 12 Oct 2014 22:04:46 +0000
Poparad 13652@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Step 1: Bang head against wall repeatedly<br /> Step 2: ?<br /> Step 3: Chords!</p> <p>Just like transcribing solos, there's not much secret to it other than just doing it. A lot. Your first attempts will be awful and mostly wrong, and it will slowly get better from there.</p> <p>I try to hear the bass note first (even if the piano or guitar isn't actually playing it, just to get my bearing for what type of chord it might be), then the top melody voice of the chord. From there I try to match the quality I'm hearing, but not the specific voicing (like maj7 vs dom7 vs m7, etc). From there, I'll try and get closer still. If I hear any particular notes jump out, I'll write them down. I'll try out different voicings and extensions until I find something that sounds like a match. </p>
Jason Sioco on "How to transcribe chord voicings for piano and guitar?" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/how-to-transcribe-chord-voicings-for-piano-and-guitar#post-13651
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Sun, 12 Oct 2014 18:08:53 +0000
Jason Sioco 13651@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I am taking Jazz Piano lessons at York University and my teacher and I are also doing ear training in my music lesson. My assignment is to transcribe “My Romance” by Ella Fitzgerald and “Barbados” by Charlie Parker. He expects me not to just transcribe the melody, but to know the chord voicings by ear. I am not getting marked on it, but it’s something I would love to do for the rest of my life. I have no experience transcribing chord voicings. It’s something I have never done before. Is there a step-by-step procedure to transcribe it systematically? </p>
Pascau on "Christmas Song Rhythms" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/christmas-song-rhythms#post-8426
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Mon, 03 Sep 2012 02:40:01 +0000
Pascau 8426@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Awesome! Many thanks :) </p>
filters on "Christmas Song Rhythms" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/christmas-song-rhythms#post-8385
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Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:43:24 +0000
filters 8385@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>thanks a lot Kurt ! </p>
denjz on "Christmas Song Rhythms" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/christmas-song-rhythms#post-8384
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Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:05:13 +0000
denjz 8384@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks Kurt! Haha, although there were some mistakes, still - my version wasn't too far out! :-) </p>
add4 on "Christmas Song Rhythms" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/christmas-song-rhythms#post-8383
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Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:33:00 +0000
add4 8383@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks for sharing! </p>
sza on "Christmas Song Rhythms" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/christmas-song-rhythms#post-8382
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Sun, 26 Aug 2012 17:22:24 +0000
sza 8382@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks for sharing, kurt! </p>
kurtisrosenwinkel on "Christmas Song Rhythms" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/christmas-song-rhythms#post-8381
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Sun, 26 Aug 2012 13:09:43 +0000
kurtisrosenwinkel 8381@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>its my handwriting yes </p>
fakejake on "Christmas Song Rhythms" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/christmas-song-rhythms#post-8375
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Sun, 26 Aug 2012 08:39:56 +0000
fakejake 8375@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Is that your handwriting Kurt? It's interesting, the G's and C's in the title look different from those in the chart.... </p>
kurtisrosenwinkel on "Christmas Song Rhythms" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/christmas-song-rhythms#post-8374
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Sun, 26 Aug 2012 06:07:19 +0000
kurtisrosenwinkel 8374@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p><a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0nbLtfXdqIza0ZlY1RQeXhrZ3M/edit" rel="nofollow">https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0nbLtfXdqIza0ZlY1RQeXhrZ3M/edit</a></p> <p>the head is played rubato over "fast" drums, like lonely woman. </p> <p>cheers,<br /> Kurt </p>
denjz on "Christmas Song Rhythms" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/christmas-song-rhythms#post-8338
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Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:09:57 +0000
denjz 8338@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Finally decided to make a lead sheet of this song.I think that the melody should be played freely over the drums kind of like Ornette's "Lonely Woman".</p> <p>So, here's what I came up with:</p> <p><a href="https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0Z7OTj34DZsenBwa2ZEeDNyUXM" rel="nofollow">https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0Z7OTj34DZsenBwa2ZEeDNyUXM</a> </p>
silverwater on "Handling player errors in transcribing" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/handling-player-errors-in-transcribing#post-6621
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Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:06:57 +0000
silverwater 6621@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I also make changes when transcribing, and not always because I felt the player intended to play something differently. Sometimes I just think it could have been better, to my taste, if it had been played a different way. </p> <p>If the reason for transcribing is to improve your playing by getting some fresh ideas in your ears and under your fingers, then just do whatever you think will further that goal. </p>
mattymel on "Handling player errors in transcribing" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/handling-player-errors-in-transcribing#post-6589
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Fri, 24 Feb 2012 21:39:29 +0000
mattymel 6589@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i always write down what they actually played but take a mental note that (for me) it would have been cooler if they did "this". though i also get the impression that the "mistakes" are often the parts that made me want to transcribe them in the first place. </p>
Floatingbridge on "Handling player errors in transcribing" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/handling-player-errors-in-transcribing#post-6587
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Floatingbridge 6587@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Think about the function of your transcription. If it is to improve your skills for notation then go far. There are limitations in notating things accurately any ways. If its not to communicate it to others and it's to get the ideas nder your fingers ( and the notes are correct ) maybe you have it down enough. </p>
JFB on "Handling player errors in transcribing" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/handling-player-errors-in-transcribing#post-6584
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Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:09:11 +0000
JFB 6584@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>There are no mistakes. </p>
guitarmageddon on "Handling player errors in transcribing" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/handling-player-errors-in-transcribing#post-6583
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guitarmageddon 6583@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I think you should write what the player intended, as, after all, it's the ideas that count.<br /> I would also suggest that excessively pedantic transcriptions can be a little unwieldy. </p>
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Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:32:44 +0000
surfinboy 6582@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Obviously a ton of solos have mistakes, and I'm running into a couple piano solos where it's pretty clear what the guy is meaning to play, but he accidentally hits a key next to it, hits 2 keys simultaneously, etc. I suppose the purist would leave it in, which I'm tempted to do, but do you insert some kind of note like the "sic" comment in writing? or put the note in perentheses? I do all my transcribing in Finale. </p>
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Mon, 23 Jan 2012 16:48:53 +0000
jorgemg1984 6366@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yes! When you have a subV with a II like Abm7 Db7 going to Cmaj7 you have two approaches: if you keep it melodic minor / lydian dominant it's like playing G7 altered. Some people when they add the Abm7 they play dorian / mixolydian to give a little extra color - Wes is a great example of this. Both options are available :) (you can even treat the Abm7 as dorian and the Db7 as lydian dominant as I think I heard Kenny do) </p>
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david6strings 6364@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>thanks jorge... because the ab-7 is like the II relative to subV7/V right? it's a good reason to play melodic minor </p>
jorgemg1984 on "B section Midnight blue" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/b-section-midnight-blue#post-6355
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Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:53:56 +0000
jorgemg1984 6355@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>It seems like this to me - / Db7(#11) / C7(alt) / F7 / Bb7 / Bbm7 / Abm7 / Db7 (#11) / C7 (alt) / - the scales being / Lydian Dominant / Altered / Mix or Lydian Dominant / Mix or Lydian Dominant / Dorian / Dorian or Melodic Minor / Lydian Dominant / Altered /.</p> <p>But I just listened quickly... </p>
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Fri, 20 Jan 2012 08:36:28 +0000
david6strings 6354@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Kenny Burrell midnight blue B section. i have no idea what's going on someone can help or confirm this:</p> <p>Db7 -- C7 -- F- -- Bb7 -- ¿¿¿¿ Bb-9 - Ab-9 ???? -- F- -- F- C7 --</p> <p>I don't understand those two chords and the phrases in the improvisation adds more confusion to me. By now im playing dorian and melodic over those chords. give me a hand if you are familiar with the song, cause im sure im overthinking. sounds like if it were pretty basic but maybe im missing something </p>
callum on "Dream of the Old" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/dream-of-the-old#post-5331
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callum 5331@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i sort of half did it but never got round to finishing it, maybe that should be my next project... i would love to look at your chart though </p>
guitarguy1234 on "Dream of the Old" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/dream-of-the-old#post-5303
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Wed, 10 Aug 2011 06:29:20 +0000
guitarguy1234 5303@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Has anyone else transcribed &quot;Dream of the Old?&quot; I have just finished. Sounds right to me. Haven&#39;t played it with a band yet. Just wanted to maybe compare it to someone else. Mostly for some of the harmony as there are some places I have a pretty good idea but am still not quite sure about. </p>
Floatingbridge on "Kurt's intro on 'Round Midnight" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/kurts-intro-on-round-midnight#post-4482
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Floatingbridge 4482@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>im doing this from youtube and the baby is still up so its hard to get everything now. also, its tough for me to discern between delay and a softer secondary attack. i wont deal with the rhythm but here is my guess as to what happens after the E7if you&#39;ve been checking this out a bunch then perhaps some of this may be helpful.<br /> •d on( g string)<br /> •minor 3rds ( on highest strings [GbBb sliding to FA}<br /> •Ebmaj7: from on lowest 4 strings (low to high: Bb,Eb,G,D)<br /> •Bbmaj7#5: middle finger Bb on low E, A D F#( on strings 234 with ring finger ); later swapping out #5 for 13(G with pinky on strng2 )and then adding A on high E to this with first finger<br /> •then( it feels like) Ebmaj7 (the typical middle 4 string root position drop 2 of: (low to high)Eb Bb D G, using 1st 3rd 2nd 4th fingers; only there is the Bb on the low E ( i feel like this is done with a barre of 1st finger but i have seen him curl his thumb over the top and he could be doing this too). however i feel its the barre because after a couple times ( again kind of muddled on youtube or my mind) the G is no longer the highest voice-instead the Bb on the high E appears in this chord. during this i hear a very faint proof that low Bb has been released from the bottom of the voicing and an almost muted low E appears instead.<br /> • finally, B7#5#9 ( with its tritone the low E in the bass appears... voiced : open low E and ( from low to high on the highest 4 strings- using fingers1 22 4) Ab D F# C# happens before the band and melody kick in.<br /> this is my guess of some of the chords involved and not in any way an attempt at an accurate run down, just a brief thing with no rhythm. hopefully this helps somewhat.<br /> i need to get his albums again! i used to have this. </p>
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igor.blomberg 4476@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I have learnt most of Kurt&#39;s intro to &#39;Round Midnight on East Coast Love Affair, except for the last chords before the head starts. He starts with some kind of E7, but I can&#39;t really get the rest. Can someone help me out? </p>
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brandoncoleman35 3824@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Looks good! Musescore seems to be a nifty little program. </p>
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Anonymous 3808@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey, thanks. I used musescore - thats the first time i&#39;ve used it. Its a little bit quirky compared to sibelius, but it does look good huh! </p> <p>And its free! </p>