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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: ugg - Recent Posts http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Tag: ugg - Recent Posts en Fri, 29 Jul 2016 23:35:06 +0000 jorgemg1984 on "Ear or Scales? ( Deep Topic )" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/ears-or-scales-deep-topic#post-9788
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jorgemg1984 9788@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>As in most jazz discussion this is in the "one or another" league... why not both? </p>
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Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:41:01 +0000
egav 9781@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>As others have said, do both.<br /> Pete might say that, but he says it cause he has all his shit down. Hes been playing for years, and in this day and age, how could he not?<br /> Hes an ear guy, thats for sure, but just by the way he plays, you know he studied his scales like crazy until he could hear it. There's no way he can play like he does if he didn't study his modes, he alters pretty much every single chord he plays over haha.<br /> And just like pete, theres guys who advocate more the use of scales, but the end approach is the same. Learning scales so you can hear the sound. </p>
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silverwater 9764@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Some great explanations on this thread (as always on this forum), not much need to elaborate. </p> <p>Personally, I think this "don't play scales" idea is an inarticulate way for someone to say either "don't rely on fingering patterns" and/or "you should choose notes based on how they sit harmonically" instead of just thinking "I've got the 7 note scales of this scale I can play over this chord", which is limiting and bland.</p> <p>Then, I feel like more experienced players just like to freak out younger players by saying "I don't play scales, I just play by ear". Mythification of legends like Wes as savants who "knew nothing" doesn't help...people still say Louis Armstrong didn't "know anything", which simply isn't true. Learning scales and shit is the natural way to learn how to get to where you're playing by ear, despite what anyone might say. </p> <p>Personally I still like to learn a lot of scales, but I think of them more as sounds to be ingrained (ex. Harmonic major down a M3, or lyd. pentatonic up a M3). Knowledge of the scales helps to transfer the sound to different keys when practicing. </p>
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Sat, 27 Oct 2012 02:35:26 +0000
M.L-13 9720@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>hal galper is a badass.his concepts on syncopation and rubato playing definitely worth looking into.scales are a vehicle to get you to places.but like hal would say quoting dizzy "think o f rhythm and the rhythm will pick the right notes for you" </p>
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Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:16:35 +0000
sireel 9718@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I'm glad I learned my scales and modes thoroughly. I wish I didn't spend as much time practicing them as I used to, but I think you should learn them and then develop your playing around what you hear. Learning your scales can open up all the doors to chords and harmony.</p> <p>Singing what you play is certainly helpful, and it keeps you from just running scales when you improvise. I'm not sure if anyone here knows about Hal Galper and his concept of forward motion. It outlines how to aim for certain notes on certain beats. Possibly this is a topic for another thread, but the idea is that your lines can have an inner melody based on chord tones that land on the strong beats, one and three, and this indicates the harmony regardless of what scales you may be drawing from at the time. In other words, there's an inner logic to good sounding lines and it's not based on scales..</p> <p>Didn't Charlie Parker say to learn all your theory and then forget it? Even if you don't know your scales and modes, you need to have an understanding of harmony to be able to communicate with other musicians. </p>
docbop on "Ear or Scales? ( Deep Topic )" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/ears-or-scales-deep-topic#post-9699
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Fri, 26 Oct 2012 10:04:04 +0000
docbop 9699@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Scales and ears go together one is the way to practice the other. I would say scales aren't the problem its how people practice scales that is the problem. Once you have a scale under you fingers you need to focus on making music with the scale, playing the scale in a musical way. Also sing what you play to get that scale/ear connection going. Long term it's about ear and playing what you hear in your head, but practicing scales and other things are part of getting those sounds into your ear and cataloged in your brain. </p>
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Thu, 25 Oct 2012 22:36:26 +0000
patfarlow 9676@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I wonder what Kurt would say. On one hand he obviously practices basic harmony very hard and very efficiently. Yet he also mentions metaphysical ideas like catching a comet and riding to the altar of music.....So I have no idea.. </p>
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gleepglop 9675@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I think there can be confusion about "studying" something versus "learning" it. Bill Evans can illuminate: he said he never studied scales, he learned them by playing music (meaning written music, primarily Bach and Chopin). </p> <p>When someone says "don't learn scales" what they often mean (whether they know it or not) is "don't use your practice time to <em>study</em> scales" mixed with "don't use scale theory as a substitute for listening and learning <em>sounds</em>". In other words, you should learn them by learning music. But you still need to, in one form or another, learn them. </p> <p>I do think that from a purely technical standpoint on the guitar, you do need to spend some time investigating the peculiarities of fingering presented by different scale options.</p> <p>I also think that everyone is different and it's a good idea to try to find what works for you. </p>
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Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:26:42 +0000
mwtzzz 9674@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Playing by ear only is just as bad advice as using scales only. The proper way to learn is both together - in tandem. As you learn harmony you train your ear. As your ear gets better, so do your improvisational skills. It's not just one or the other. </p>
patfarlow on "When is Kurt going to release, a dvd lesson or a book??" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/when-is-kurt-going-to-release-a-dvd-lesson-or-a-book#post-9660
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Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:02:38 +0000
patfarlow 9660@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I was referring to the material Kurt has written so far, not the fictional book. He said he was about 70% done I believe. </p>
guitar1025 on "When is Kurt going to release, a dvd lesson or a book??" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/when-is-kurt-going-to-release-a-dvd-lesson-or-a-book#post-9628
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Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:23:06 +0000
guitar1025 9628@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>The picture above is not real (it even says so on the website). I got really excited when I saw it but I found out it wasn't real when I followed the link. </p>
patfarlow on "When is Kurt going to release, a dvd lesson or a book??" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/when-is-kurt-going-to-release-a-dvd-lesson-or-a-book#post-9623
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Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:14:05 +0000
patfarlow 9623@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>it would be cool to see see one page preview :) </p>
madsrh on "When is Kurt going to release, a dvd lesson or a book??" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/when-is-kurt-going-to-release-a-dvd-lesson-or-a-book#post-9619
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Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:41:31 +0000
madsrh 9619@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>It's a good idea, but I don't think that's the issue here. I think it would feels very unsatisfactory to ship a product that is only 3/4 done. Don't get me wrong, I would gladly donate to a Rosenwinkel kickstarter project. There's also a certain pride involved with the release of something that has your name on it.<br /> Based on what I know about Kurt, I am quite convinced that this book, when it's 100% completed, will be as important for guitarists as Mark Levine Jazz Piano book is to many piano players. </p>
contremisart on "When is Kurt going to release, a dvd lesson or a book??" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/when-is-kurt-going-to-release-a-dvd-lesson-or-a-book#post-9618
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Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:06:33 +0000
contremisart 9618@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Forgive me for recommending this, if it will come out inappropriate.</p> <p>But what do you think of the idea of converting this book process to something like a kickstarter project? I mean if the finance is an issue shouldn't the guitar nerds all around the world give a push to this book? Or maybe something like artist share too, we give our support and in return maybe have a glimpse of what Kurt has already done for the book. Am I fantasizing ? </p>
patfarlow on "When is Kurt going to release, a dvd lesson or a book??" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/when-is-kurt-going-to-release-a-dvd-lesson-or-a-book#post-9613
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Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:30:36 +0000
patfarlow 9613@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i like! </p>
progressiverok on "Amp for sale" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/amp-for-sale#post-9609
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Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:19:43 +0000
progressiverok 9609@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Amp for sale,ULTRASOUND,30w.Mint condition!Most transparent sound on the market.Find out why jazz great John Pizzarelli uses one~</p> <p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=160907220832">Amp </a> </p>
madsrh on "When is Kurt going to release, a dvd lesson or a book??" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/when-is-kurt-going-to-release-a-dvd-lesson-or-a-book#post-9607
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madsrh 9607@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I'm <u>really</u> looking forward to this book myself! I've written <a href="http://themusicofkurtrosenwinkel.blogspot.com/2012/10/kurt-rosenwinkel-guitar-method-book.html">a post about it on my site</a>, so if anyone has any updated information - please let me know!</p> <p><img style="width: 750px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-11Tnkfhhl5A/UITynGxTH7I/AAAAAAAABH8/oaMpFUckr9E/s1600/rosenwinkel_book.jpg"></p> <p><em>//MadsRH</em><br /> <a href="http://themusicofkurtrosenwinkel.blogspot.com/">http://themusicofkurtrosenwinkel.blogspot.com</a> </p>
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Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:28:03 +0000
StefBss 9583@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Great....thanks<br /> Stef </p>
IoannisK on "Ask me Now (Reflections) transcription" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/ask-me-now-reflections-transcription#post-9511
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Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:43:26 +0000
IoannisK 9511@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yeah, totally. Thanks for that! Really cool site by the way.. </p>
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Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:23:20 +0000
madsrh 9502@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Cool, if it's allright with you <em>IoannisK</em>, I'll add it to my transcription site <a href="themusicofkurtrosenwinkel.blogspot.com/">http://www.themusicofkurtrosenwinkel.blogspot.com/</a> ???</p> <p><strong>//MadsRH</strong> </p>
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Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:01:54 +0000
thoeller 9445@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>It's easy to see when watching the youtube clip of the score and track how awesome Kurts feel is. </p>
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Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:46:09 +0000
contremisart 9301@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>wow thanks again :) </p>
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Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:39:32 +0000
IoannisK 9298@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>No problem.. Try this one</p> <p><a href="https://rapidshare.com/files/2588744544/Ask%20Me%20Now.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://rapidshare.com/files/2588744544/Ask%20Me%20Now.pdf</a> </p>
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contremisart 9295@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>why not upload it to dropbox or somewhere else where we dont need registration?<br /> thanks </p>
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IoannisK 9287@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hello everyone! My first post on this forum and I would be happy to share this transcription. I started transcribing this tune mainly for analysis purposes so there might be mistakes.. It worked fine for me though! Anyway, looking forward to comments/feedback!</p> <p><a href="http://www.4shared.com/office/NcrBkPYV/Ask_Me_Now.html?" rel="nofollow">http://www.4shared.com/office/NcrBkPYV/Ask_Me_Now.html?</a></p> <p>Ioannis </p>
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Bob McBobbington 7956@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <br />
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jazznan 7954@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I can't wait for this either...like all of us, we're one pins and needles for it...but Kurt's a busy guy, so I understand the delay and probably his desire to release something of high quality. But he has an eager audience for music and a book, just sayin' :) </p>
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patfarlow 7952@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>im predicting a vague answer. followed by folks angry with my answer. </p>
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JPMike 7951@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>The title says it all, I really want to see one of these getting released. Even if it's about technique, theory, harmony, etc.</p> <p>Maybe Kurt can give us some light about this. </p>
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jbroad 3545@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>a scale is just an available pool of notes. you can do whatever you want with them. </p>