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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Topic: Jonathan Kreisberg's Approach http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Topic: Jonathan Kreisberg's Approach en Wed, 29 Jun 2016 12:40:43 +0000 bingefeller on "Jonathan Kreisberg's Approach" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/jonathan-kreisbergs-approach#post-10016
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bingefeller 10016@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hi madsrh - I have been to your site before and I really like. Infact, I have it bookmarked. i didn't know that you were a member here too. Your site is very helpful on gaining an insight into Kurt's style. I love the transcriptions you have on there too - lots of very helpful stuff. </p>
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jorgemg1984 10013@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Madsrh I would be delighted to help but I don't really think I have the knowledge to write something insightful and / or meaningful. I just ried to answer a question that was made to me... If one day I feel I have something relevant to say about Kurt I will contact you of course :) </p>
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madsrh 10010@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p><strong>jorgemg1984 </strong>-&gt; If you (or anyone else) has any insights about Kurts style, I would <u>really</u> like to write something about it on my site. Please <a href="mailto:madsrh(a)gmail.com">get in touch</a>!<br /> Regarding Kreisberg, I feel the exact same way. His playing is impressive, but it doesn't move me. I'm a huge Metheny fan too and I sadly feel the same thing with him. It's too perfect and it sounds like they're always on top, but never on the edge.</p> <p><strong>bingefeller</strong> -&gt; Perhaps you can find something useful on my site <a href="http://themusicofkurtrosenwinkel.blogspot.com"> themusicofkurtrosenwinkel.blogspot.com</a> </p>
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Wed, 07 Nov 2012 12:46:59 +0000
jorgemg1984 10005@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Man I am not an expert at all - I've transcribed some his stuff but only on standards. I don't really dig transcribing his solos on his own stuff - too personal. From what I've transcribed and from my aural perception, yes - triads and pentatonics a lot, but very well and deep integrated. Everything he does seems to be done in the moment, with a very deep interpretation and zero licks. A transcription will show you the rational side - as you said, traids and pentatonics, very good chord connection, lots of lyrism. But then his playing / sound gives it that a almost mystical thing... That's where I feel Kresiberg his different. Kreisberg is just super-competent; Kurt is all about the music. I think his record "The Next Step" is where he did the transition, the name says it all. Read interviews from that time, very enlightening - he said he knew too much and that he lost his intuition....</p> <p>But I am sure there are guys here who can speak much better than me about this. </p>
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jazzacast55 9999@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Guitar1025 said it, he does have amazing time, mostly due to the fact that a lot of what he plays are lines and patterns that he has practiced so he knows how to play them super well.<br /> I find it being a little boring, I much rather hear someone reaching for something some flurry of notes that makes me go WOW! 8th/16th notes become a little boring, if you ever get huge into his playing and start listening to his albums a lot and youtube clips you will hear the lines and patterns A LOT in his playing.<br /> I actually prefer his compositions and chord work over his lead playing.<br /> Oh and 5ths, he uses 5th a bit in some of his lines and those wide interval string skipping arpeggios. </p>
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Wed, 07 Nov 2012 09:20:00 +0000
bingefeller 9998@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>jorgemg184 - what can you tell me about Kurt's style? I've seen a few transcriptions and it seems that he uses arpeggios and pentatonics a lot. Melodic minor arpeggios seem to feature heavily and of course his phrasing as a lot to do with it. Is there anything else I'm missing? </p>
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jorgemg1984 9997@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I think guitar1025 said everything that needed to be said really... I would not have done better!</p> <p>To me there's no big mystery about his playing... lots of patterns, great time and staccato playing. I find guys like Rosenwinkel, Monder or Lund much elaborate and intriguing to tell you the truth. </p>
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Wed, 07 Nov 2012 04:17:43 +0000
bingefeller 9995@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks for the reply guitar1025.</p> <p>I have one of his albums on my computer at home, I'm not quite sure of the name but I bought it on iTunes. I'm gonna have to listen to it again. </p> <p>He's a really incredible player, right up there as one of my favourites for sure. </p>
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guitar1025 9987@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I listen to him quite a bit and have seen him live a number of times here in NYC.</p> <p>First of all is time is impeccable!!! That's something that's always stuck out to me in his playing. In terms of his lines, he uses a lot of patterns (yes, definitely a lot of arpeggios). He also has a few wide arpeggio licks that have been worked out; you'll hear a lot of the same ones from record to record. He does a lot of constant structure patterns as well; patterns that are exact transpositions regardless of the key/changes. So when the pattern goes outside the key, your ear hears the continuation of the pattern more so than the notes that conflict with the changes. Also, he picks about 95% of his notes; which is a big part of his sound and tone. </p>
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bingefeller 9984@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I was listening to Jonathan playing on this video:</p> <p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-U5aTMf1Ew" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-U5aTMf1Ew</a></p> <p>and I was wondering if any of you guys here have any insight into what he's doing to sound so unique? He seems to be using quite a lot of arpeggios and wide interval leaps but I'm not certain on this..... </p>