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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Topic: Pentatonics http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Topic: Pentatonics en Sun, 31 Jul 2016 00:24:11 +0000 geetarted on "Pentatonics" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/pentatonics#post-4133
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Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:10:17 +0000
geetarted 4133@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Straight up minor pent. Chords get a Holdsworth vibe and the inversions and permutations get into Bergonzi territory. Simple, but tons of possible lines in positions or stretched out on 2 or 3 strings.... etc.. It&#39;s a wee bit messy but it works for my skype students.</p> <p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/51502361/Penatonic-Voicings-Inversions-and-Permutations" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/51502361/Penatonic-Voicings-Inversions-and-Permutations</a> </p>
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Wed, 02 Feb 2011 13:56:14 +0000
horg 3827@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>silverwater, THANK YOU. I&#39;ve been trying out everything on your chart. I feel like I&#39;ve learned so much in just 2 hours...it&#39;s insane. Thanks for posting that. Also, Bruce Saunders page is pretty amazing. Man...so much stuff to practice. </p>
silverwater on "Pentatonics" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/pentatonics#post-3800
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Mon, 31 Jan 2011 01:10:37 +0000
silverwater 3800@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>C Minor 6 pentatonic: C, Eb, F, G, A (basically, the nat6th is substituted for the b7)</p> <p>C Whole tone Pentatonic: C, E, Gb, Ab, Bb (basically a C whole tone scale, minus the second note)</p> <p>For me, playing whole tone pentatonics comes down to two things: knowing your whole tone scales, and then knowing which note to leave out. </p>
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Sun, 23 Jan 2011 14:38:10 +0000
david6strings 3770@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>im wondering the same. i guess min6 one must be an -6 arpeggio with the fourth added but no idea about the whole tone one </p>
Matt on "Pentatonics" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/pentatonics#post-3769
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Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:42:12 +0000
Matt 3769@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>noob question here - what&#39;s the whole tone pentatonic, and the min6 one? </p>
jazznan on "Pentatonics" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/pentatonics#post-3757
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Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:20:23 +0000
jazznan 3757@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Here&#39;s a cool lesson by Vic Juris on pentatonics: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7uX6FNMn7c" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7uX6FNMn7c</a> </p>
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Fri, 21 Jan 2011 13:58:10 +0000
Matt 3756@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>that&#39;s a nice chart! really is. </p>
silverwater on "Pentatonics" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/pentatonics#post-3755
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Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:36:40 +0000
silverwater 3755@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;ve been compiling the pentatonic sounds I like to play over changes, and have a chart on my wall. I know there are more sounds out there, but you can&#39;t start with everything or you&#39;ll end up learning nothing.</p> <p> It includes the minor 6 pentatonic and the whole tone pentatonic scales. Here&#39;s what it currently looks like:</p> <p>Cmaj7:</p> <p>- Cmaj pent.</p> <p>- Emin pent.</p> <p>- Bmin pent.</p> <p>- Amin6 pent.</p> <p>Cmin7: </p> <p>- Cmin pent.</p> <p>- Cmin6 pent.</p> <p>- Gmin pent</p> <p>- Dmin pent.</p> <p>C7 (alt sound):</p> <p>- C#m6 pent</p> <p>- Ebmin pent.</p> <p>- Ebmin6 pent.</p> <p>- C whole tone pent.</p> <p>C7 (b9 nat13):</p> <p>- A whole tone pent</p> <p>C7 (9 #11 13):</p> <p>- Gmin6 pent</p> <p>- Amin6 pent</p> <p>- F# whole tone pent.</p> <p>Cm7b5:</p> <p>- Ebm6 pent</p> <p>- Fmin6 pent (nat9 sound)</p> <p>- D whole tone pent (nat9 sound)</p> <p>Cmaj7 #5 #11:</p> <p>- Bmin6 pent</p> <p>C-maj7:</p> <p>- B whole tone pent. (good on Nica&#39;s Dream!)</p> <p>- Dmin6 pent</p> <p>Quick ii V (C-7 to F7, Diatonic sound) [I like to use these for tunes that have those quick little ii v that are away from the key center, like in &quot;Four&quot;]:</p> <p>- Cmin pent.</p> <p>- Cmin6 pent.</p> <p>- D min6 pent</p> <p>Quick ii V (altered sound):</p> <p>- Just ignore the ii and use the options for the altered V!</p> <p>ii V I sounds: (Cm7-F7-Bbmaj7) [I overuse the hell out of these two]</p> <p>- Cmin pent, Ebmin pent, Dmin pent</p> <p>- Gmin pent, Abmin pent, Amin pent</p> <p>I don&#39;t know how much good this chart will do anyone, since discovering this shit on your own makes it way more likely you&#39;ll use it your playing (at least for me), but there you go. </p>
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Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:43:37 +0000
natjanoff 3746@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yamaguchi&#39;s books are great, I just think that the Saunders book is easier to use initially. However I have all of Yamaguchi&#39;s books. Very useful and worth getting. </p>
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Wed, 19 Jan 2011 01:35:39 +0000
Floatingbridge 3745@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p><a href="http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/masaya-yamaguchi-bookzz" rel="nofollow">http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/masaya-yamaguchi-bookzz</a> </p>
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Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:05:25 +0000
natjanoff 3735@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I really like Bruce Saunders books. Their all great, especially the Pentatonics one. I think it&#39;s called<br /> &quot; Jazz Pentatonics &quot; Really great!</p> <p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mel-Bay-presents-Jazz-Pentatonics/dp/078667167X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1295382564&amp;sr=1-2" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Mel-Bay-presents-Jazz-Pentatonics/dp/078667167X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1295382564&amp;sr=1-2</a></p> <p> <a href="http://www.natjanoff.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.natjanoff.com</a> </p>
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Sun, 16 Jan 2011 14:42:13 +0000
jimjazz 3705@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Yeah, its great isn&#39;t it! I have his c.d 8x5 which I like a lot, a player really deserving of wider exposure. </p>
Timbo on "Pentatonics" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/pentatonics#post-3703
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Sun, 16 Jan 2011 12:52:35 +0000
Timbo 3703@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>That Bruce Saunders page is a goldmine. Dropping everything to go into the shed right now. </p>
jimjazz on "Pentatonics" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/pentatonics#post-3701
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Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:38:13 +0000
jimjazz 3701@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>That Miles Okazaki stuff looks great, realise I&#39;ve seen him before backing Jane Monheit.</p> <p>Bruce Saunders has some stuff on his website, he&#39;s a great player and his site is stuffed full of transcriptions and lessons.</p> <p><a href="http://www.brucesaunders.com/lessons1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.brucesaunders.com/lessons1.html</a></p> <p>I also really enjoyed Scott Henderson&#39; video &#39;Jazz Fusion Improvisation&#39; which has a lot on pentatonics. </p>
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Sat, 15 Jan 2011 22:52:43 +0000
steepcreeks 3699@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>wow, neat stuff, thanks Quintricacy </p>
Quintricacy on "Pentatonics" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/pentatonics#post-3698
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Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:59:28 +0000
Quintricacy 3698@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Here&#39;s some stuff from Miles Okazaki. He&#39;s a pretty interesting guy and has some really nice ideas and can play the guitar pretty good too. I strongly recommend getting his album Mirror, it&#39;s killer. The first thing seems daunting at first, but just study the diagram on the top left and it makes sense.</p> <p><a href="http://milesokazaki.com/pentatonic.html" rel="nofollow">http://milesokazaki.com/pentatonic.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://milesokazaki.com/guitar.html" rel="nofollow">http://milesokazaki.com/guitar.html</a> </p>
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Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:29:32 +0000
steepcreeks 3697@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I&#39;m trying to dig further into pentatonic ideas. Anything anyone would like to share: voicings, exercises, substitutions, patterns, sounds.<br /> I&#39;ve seen this pattern of Kurt&#39;s and been mixing it up as many ways I can think of (<a href="http://www.vimeo.com/1397394" rel="nofollow">http://www.vimeo.com/1397394</a>)<br /> I also just purchased Bergonzi&#39;s book on Pentatonic studies (haven&#39;t received it yet) </p>