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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Topic: The Rat http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Topic: The Rat en Tue, 26 Jul 2016 10:16:48 +0000 jorgemg1984 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-11233
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Thu, 02 May 2013 13:26:03 +0000
jorgemg1984 11233@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>His thing is not really forums I guess... I am sure he'll keep up the good work and end up an amazing player! </p>
Basile865 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-11231
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Thu, 02 May 2013 07:58:08 +0000
Basile865 11231@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks man, I really dig his playing. Im suprised he doesnt post on this forum, as he seems to be heavily influenced by kurt, almost to a fault. My wish is that he will continue to blossom into his own powerful thing, which hes very capable of doing. Thanks </p>
jorgemg1984 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-11225
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Thu, 02 May 2013 05:10:12 +0000
jorgemg1984 11225@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>His name is Virxílio, he is from Galícia (Spain). He studied in Porto (Portugal) and lived in NY for a brief period, he recorded with Walter Smith III and Marcus Gilmore there.</p> <p><a href="http://jazztimes.com/sections/albums/articles/26038-odysseia-virxilio-da-silva" rel="nofollow">http://jazztimes.com/sections/albums/articles/26038-odysseia-virxilio-da-silva</a></p> <p>He's in Galicia again, playing some gigs but I am not sure about his plans for the future, I need to catch up with him soon. He's an amazing player! Here's a duo track I played with him</p> <p><a href="https://soundcloud.com/jorgegoncalves/all-the-things-you-are" rel="nofollow">https://soundcloud.com/jorgegoncalves/all-the-things-you-are</a> </p>
Basile865 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-11224
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Wed, 01 May 2013 23:11:50 +0000
Basile865 11224@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey Jorge, who is your friend in that clip? I cant get the song out of my head. I love how the motif modifies as it goes </p>
Basile865 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-11216
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Wed, 01 May 2013 02:09:48 +0000
Basile865 11216@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Sorry to rehash an old thread but I finally got to try a Rat today. Just the basic modern production one. I couldnt find a tone worth the money in it. I had the filter knob probably around 3 o'clock, the volume around 1 and the distortion anywhere from 8 o'clock on up. I was using an ibanez am73 semi hollow and it pretty much sounded like a carlos santana tone. Quite a bit more fuzzy then I was expecting. </p> <p>I really hope to be able to try a proper vintage one in hopes that there is actually quite a difference. The gain structure in the modern ones are all wrong in my opinion.</p> <p>Now, a modern reissue pedal that I love is the dod 250 reissue (yellow box). Such a smooth gain structure that as long as youre not maxing it out sometimes you forget its on..... On par with the exotic offerings (which i love and have owned) and also quite cheap if you find one. </p>
smoke on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-8459
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Fri, 07 Sep 2012 15:46:31 +0000
smoke 8459@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p><blockquote>Frisell also uses the RAT (and a Tube Screamer). It's sort of a common pedal among jazzers (with the TS)... Here's a friend of mine using one of the new (chinese) ones</blockquote></p> <p>Damn the rosenwinkel is strong with that one. Great tune though and damn good tone. </p>
Chris on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-8343
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Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:13:06 +0000
Chris 8343@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Does anyone know what Kurt sets his Rat to as a default? Distortion--Filter--Volume </p>
jorgemg1984 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-8032
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Sat, 07 Jul 2012 07:18:21 +0000
jorgemg1984 8032@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Mike my TS is actually a RC Booster / TS in one pedal. So I use Filter on the RAT on 100% and Tone on the TS on 100% and use the RC Booster for eq. The TS has some mods (mid shift, asymmetrical and symmetrical od, some different clippings) and the RAT has tons of mods (ruetz on / off, lots of different clipping). I have 4 electric guitars, two amps (jazzmaster ultralight and henriksen heads) and two Dr Z cabs with different speakers and configurations. The pedals sound very different with different gear combinations so I don't have fixed settings.. sorry! </p>
JPMike on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-8029
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Sat, 07 Jul 2012 05:07:07 +0000
JPMike 8029@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>But but, what about the settings? </p>
jorgemg1984 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-8020
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Fri, 06 Jul 2012 22:00:22 +0000
jorgemg1984 8020@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Thanks Mike, he is a great player. </p>
JPMike on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-8016
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Fri, 06 Jul 2012 20:07:12 +0000
JPMike 8016@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Can you guys share some settings on the Rat and the TS, or how to use them together? And what other would be ideal for that nice KR tone. :D</p> <p>P.S Jorge your friends sounds amazing. </p>
Bob McBobbington on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-8004
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Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:44:32 +0000
Bob McBobbington 8004@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <br />
JorgeRubiales on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-8002
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Fri, 06 Jul 2012 11:17:43 +0000
JorgeRubiales 8002@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Sounds good to me. I don't really buy all that hype about vintage pedals, as long as you are able to find similar quality components (and there are those over there, maybe not drop-in replacements, but an engineer friend can help). </p>
jorgemg1984 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-7995
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Fri, 06 Jul 2012 04:56:54 +0000
jorgemg1984 7995@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Frisell also uses the RAT (and a Tube Screamer). It's sort of a common pedal among jazzers (with the TS)... Here's a friend of mine using one of the new (chinese) ones</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QJDsz0v1c0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QJDsz0v1c0</a> </p>
Bob McBobbington on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-7993
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Fri, 06 Jul 2012 03:31:33 +0000
Bob McBobbington 7993@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <br />
Chris on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-7992
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Thu, 05 Jul 2012 22:08:18 +0000
Chris 7992@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I totally agree Guitarguy77.. I only know three Jazz guitarists off the top of my head that I've seen using the Rat though.. Kurt has a Whiteface that's in excellent cosmetic shape, and Scofield and Ben Monder both use vintage Rat 2s..</p> <p>Who else uses the Rat (other than like Nirvana/Punk Bands)?</p> <p>And also like I mentioned previously, there's a huge difference in sound between my 84' Whiteface and my late 2000's Rat 2.. Guitarguy77 you were saying your 90's Rat 2 sounds more modern.. Can you be more specific? </p>
Bob McBobbington on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-7987
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Thu, 05 Jul 2012 17:20:00 +0000
Bob McBobbington 7987@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <br />
jorgemg1984 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-7986
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Thu, 05 Jul 2012 17:04:40 +0000
jorgemg1984 7986@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I never did any A/B but in theory a RAT clone should sound exactly equal... or 99% equal. Maybe the BYOC clone has some schematic adjustments? I know they do that sometimes as "improvements".</p> <p>The important thing is you're happy :) </p>
Chris on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-7981
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Thu, 05 Jul 2012 14:47:01 +0000
Chris 7981@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Hey Jorge,</p> <p>Thanks for the info, I have seen a few replicas and also the Whiteface reissue Rat online, but I'm a bit skeptical. I purchased a Boss SG-1 Clone from BYOC and it was an exact replica, but somehow it sounds a tad bit different than my friends Slow Gear.. Huh?</p> <p>Anyway, all the best and thanks again! </p>
jorgemg1984 on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-7980
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Thu, 05 Jul 2012 07:59:39 +0000
jorgemg1984 7980@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Ben I don't want to bug you but the schematic for the original RAT is available and all the parts still exist; even the LM308 chip. The cost (in parts) for the RAT is around 40€ and then add some hours labor... I got an exact replica of the original circuit with tons of mods for 90€ with better components and true bypass.</p> <p>Pro Co are making a lot of money in those... there's nothing mythical about the pedal, you can go to pedal builders forum to learn more, plenty of people build exact RAT clones. But yeah it does sound good! </p>
JPMike on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-7979
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Thu, 05 Jul 2012 03:54:11 +0000
JPMike 7979@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I got a regular Rat and I really like it. </p> <p>I would really love to try an 80s whiteface one. </p>
Chris on "The Rat" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/the-rat#post-7977
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Thu, 05 Jul 2012 01:11:52 +0000
Chris 7977@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>2 Months ago I purchased a 1984 Pro Co Whiteface Rat, and I'm in love with it. I'd been checking ebay periodically for about 8 months and one finally was listed with only a buy it now option of $350 US Dollars.. I talked the guy down to 300 and we used paypal to exclude the third party (ebay).</p> <p>My favorite thing about this pedal, is that when set right (tad bit of distortion, some filter, and volume set at 12 o'clock), I'll be playing a longer line and run up high to grab a last final note (with a touch of vibrato) and the pedal reacts in such an amazing way. It's as if the pedal was in my head, knew the line, and sent a beautiful ray of burning/fuzzy distortion that decays like no other pedal I've ever used (I hear the same burning rays in a few solos on the OJM record. Love it.). I have a cheap Rat from the late 2000s and I've also experimented with distortion/fuzz pedals from MXR, EHX, DOD, Boss, Keeley, Empress, and Zvex.. Anything else y'all suggest?</p> <p>One fuzz pedal I kept, was from this company called Skin Pimps.. Its called the Halloween Fuzz and it has a real unique sound when used drenched or when used lightly.. I use it in Jazz and Rock gigs, very versatile.. But I'm still in love with my Whiteface Rat more than anything.</p> <p>Does anyone know more about the Whiteface model in general? How seldom I see them up for purchase and for good reason.. Thanks! </p>