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The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Topic: Yamaguchi: Pentatonicism in Jazz http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ The Kurt Rosenwinkel Forum » Topic: Yamaguchi: Pentatonicism in Jazz en Sat, 30 Jul 2016 03:30:39 +0000 Floatingbridge on "Yamaguchi: Pentatonicism in Jazz" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/yamaguchi-pentatonicism-in-jazz#post-7616
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Wed, 30 May 2012 13:57:47 +0000
Floatingbridge 7616@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>A lot of the pentatonics in the book he is referring to are not the ones McCoy is using. </p>
Matt on "Yamaguchi: Pentatonicism in Jazz" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/yamaguchi-pentatonicism-in-jazz#post-7613
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Wed, 30 May 2012 10:48:03 +0000
Matt 7613@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>i've transcribed a few lines of Shaw on the Unity album but so far i've only registered them as sidesteps or enclosures, like surrounding a G-7 w/ Ab and Gb major on a ii-V, etc. </p>
jorgemg1984 on "Yamaguchi: Pentatonicism in Jazz" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/yamaguchi-pentatonicism-in-jazz#post-7606
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Tue, 29 May 2012 19:09:50 +0000
jorgemg1984 7606@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>Woody Shaw is the master of pentatonics, no doubt. Check Bergonzi's book, it's very good! </p>
Quintricacy on "Yamaguchi: Pentatonicism in Jazz" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/yamaguchi-pentatonicism-in-jazz#post-7605
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Tue, 29 May 2012 18:34:28 +0000
Quintricacy 7605@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>I think listening to players who use pentatonics would help a lot. It sometimes can be hard to apply something without any reference point so you should definitely listen to Woody Shaw and McCoy Tyner from the Coltrane period. Personally I prefer Woody Shaw's use of pentatonics over McCoy but they're both incredible </p>
Floatingbridge on "Yamaguchi: Pentatonicism in Jazz" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/yamaguchi-pentatonicism-in-jazz#post-7594
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Mon, 28 May 2012 16:08:06 +0000
Floatingbridge 7594@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>It may be stuff you can use for yourself in your own work. It might not be the kind of thing that you can just drop on have you met miss jones. I mean , he almost boastfully ( in as boastful as a dry manual can be) provides the additional scales and permutation missing from the slonimsky book. That said, even with that material it was based on the tritone so naturally it can be woven into the territory of the V chord. I've been playing around with little ( not big ' twelve tone' but ) twelve tone ideas that just weave a discreet path and wrap themselves up in little bows of their own logic. Complete little structures with all twelve notes, you know? Maybe not much will come out to be useful in standards land , but the few ones that do ( or even fragments thereof ) can be ways of ornamenting certain chord tones or pivot points in standard cadences. </p>
Matt on "Yamaguchi: Pentatonicism in Jazz" http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/topic/yamaguchi-pentatonicism-in-jazz#post-7593
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Mon, 28 May 2012 12:55:35 +0000
Matt 7593@http://www.kurtrosenwinkel.com/forum/ <p>so i bought this book about a year ago and have practiced the formulas in it for the major pentatonics but i'm having difficulty conceptualizing the uses for the other pentatonics. if anyone has any guidance on how i can derive more use from this book, please help! </p>