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Master technique teachers, and musician's injuries specialists in the NYC area

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  1. silverwater
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    Hi - just wondering if anyone here in the NYC knows of a technique master that gives lessons...and also if any could recommend any refutable doctors or clinics that specialize in musicians injuries....thanks in advance.

  2. guitarmo
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    http://www.syangmd.com/ is a member of http://www.artsmed.org/. I am going to visit him in March to talk about some issues I'm having. I'm not sure what you mean by technique master but Gilad, Lage, Moreno, Kreisberg, among others, have fantastic technique and teach from time to time. Out of curiosity, what injury are you suffering from?

  3. silverwater
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    Thanks for the response...

    My issue has to do with weakness/stiffness in both hands. I've been dealing with this for years. I think the best way to describe it is it feels like i'm always trying to warm up, but can't quite get there.

    It's an annoying problem because I can't just go to a doctor and say "it hurts here --->" .

    The issue may be technique related as well. Last year I shifted my left hand position so my the tip of thumb is visible from the front, before my thumb as always way behind the neck, because everyone always told me "thumb behind the neck is proper". etc. Well what it was doing was causing me to choke the neck...so my change has improved things, but not as well as i'd like.

    Also, I've gone through almost every conceivable way to pick the guitar, and in the end none of them seem to work. That tells me that there's an overall flaw in my picking mechanics that manifests itself, no matter what technique i'm using. And I'm a big fan of all those guys you listed and their techniques, certainly no hurt can come from lessons with either of them, but I was wondering if there were any players known for their ability to teach technique (great players aren't always great teachers as we all know)

    What issues are you having? And would you recommend this type of doctor for my type of problem?

  4. I'm sorry you feel this.
    As far as the thumb thing , I've heard of these rules and obsessions and don't really understand. Not to sound like a total hippie ( and I will as a result of what I'll say after) but your body will tell you:
    what I have seen many really good players do ( and I doubt it's with too much thought ) is that the thumb seems to be behind the neck and when they are at the g or b or high e it seems to poke up over the neck- sometimes a lot sometimes a little ( probably based on the size of the hand ) . There is no THE WAY... You are providing enough resistance to allow what your going for not injure you and have the strength to do whatever it is.
    Again I don't want to sound like a hippie but it sounds like tension is bothering you or you are super muscular in your forearms and hands ?
    Have you checked out Alexander technique or yoga?
    I hope you find out what's up.

  5. Maybe take a lesson with Peter Mazza.

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  6. guitarmo
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radial_tunnel_syndrome is what I am dealing with, in my left arm. I had surgery 5 months ago and now I'm having pain towards my wrist. So, I am going to see Dr. Yang to get a second opinion. I found Dr. Yang through the http://www.artsmed.org/ site. He looks to be very well educated and has experience with musicians/artists. I can let you know how I feel about him after my appointment on March 7th. Good luck and stay positive, I know it's hard.

  7. david6strings
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    i have heard good things about yoga for musicians. you can buy that chinese balls too, hahaha not the sex toy but that cheap ones,
    http://www.terapianatural.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/b.jpg
    you put the balls on your palm and move them like if you were mixing them, that kind of things can work on your case.
    i damaged myself because when i switch from strato to the 335 style body shape i begin to play with a lot of tension, until i made myself a contracture, nobody could tell me what were wrong or how it begins.

    a doctor told me that one of the most common injuries guitarrist have is next: the flexors are constantly working but we never use the extensors so a decompensation is produced.
    so my last tip is to work on this for exemple in the car with 1 free hand
    http://www.heavygrips.com/images2/extensorrubberband.jpg

  8. gleepglop
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    You might consider looking into the work of Dr. John Sarno. He has a few books, of which The Mindbody Prescription and The Divided Mind are probably the best and most current.

    He's based in NY, and is on the Faculty of NYU's Dept. of Rehabilitation Medicine. Another doctor in NY who uses his techniques is Ira Rashbaum, also an NYU Clinical faculty member and Rehabilitation Department member.

  9. Matt
    Member

    i dont know anything about resolving tension or techniques regarding it, but i also stretch before i sit down to practice, which maybe you already do?

  10. Phil
    Member

    Hey Silverwater,

    Just wanted to offer my two cents on the matter. I highly, highly recommend studying the Alexander Technique, with any teacher, musician or not. I suffered from tendonitis, both from playing guitar and typing, and have found AT extremely helpful, after trying yoga and physical therapy didn't really help. Don't be fooled if online materials or books you see make AT seem stifling or dull, it's an amazing technique, and the real deal for recovering from repetitive stress injuries. I've learned from AT that the fundamental issues in an injury like this are a lot broader than simply how you play guitar - it has to do with how you carry yourself generally. A lot of people who teach it used it to recover from an injury. My teacher is David Coben - he's great. I also took one lesson from a teacher who is specifically a jazz musician: markjosefsberg.com.

    Also, if AT doesn't interest you, a friend of mine has great things to say about classical guitarist David Leisner. Leisner cured himself of focal dystonia, another hand injury, and my friend, a former student, says that he is great for technique.

    Hope some of this might be helpful. You can find any of these folks easily on google.

  11. jseaberry
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    Well, Floatingbridge, I took your advice; I just finished a Skype lesson with Peter Mazza. My head is overflowing with the stuff he showed me in just a half hour or so. Why this guy is not more widely known is a mystery to me. Unreal lesson.

  12. I'm also quite baffled by his under the radarness.when he isn't teaching or practicing the guy is running triathalons for good causes. He has boatloads of energy. He is smart about the guitar's role in various contexts. He plays his ass off ; he knows his shit; his arrangements are very full and complete with a lot of lush harmonic invention and inner line motion that is active and deep without being a huge distraction; he hears it all and can trace any ( what I assumed to be obscure) lil' references or licks ... Like " oh yeah, that pat martino book is great" right after kind of sneaking a fraction of something in .he can quickly feel what you are lacking and he is super sweet and pumps you up with reminding you of where you are strong. He works and pushes himself quite hard from what I have seen.
    That's great that you got useful stuff out of it maybe some helpful tips for your injury or how to avoid further strain, yes?
    Hope you feel better.

  13. jseaberry
    Member

    It was not I that had the injury, but in reading along, I took your advice and had a lesson with Peter. The best single investment in learning the guitar I ever made. And yes, you can mention any guitarist, and he just starts playing in that manner....scary. Scary good, though.

  14. Matt
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    Yes, peter is crazy. I saw him at the bar next door when i was in NYC with timothy hayward and thomson kneeland and they tore it up! i wasn't able to have a lesson but i would really consider him foremost in getting a lesson.

  15. jseaberry
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    Matt, if Kurt doesn't knock on your door and say, "here I am, let's play!", then Peter is the next best thing.

  16. Matt
    Member

    i would agree! i'm surprised there is not as much hype over him as Lage Lund or Mike. Peter seems to have a lot lot lot together!

  17. jseaberry
    Member

    I just had my second Skype lesson with Peter; I never knew there was so much you could do with "Autumn Leaves"......

  18. silverwater
    Member

    Just an update:

    I've been doing some Rolfing sessions lately, and there's been significant improvement in my hands, arms, neck, and shoulders. It's a bit expensive, but I can add it to the list of the number of awesome suggestions listed on this thread.


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